Transcript — Eagle Mountain City Council, 16 June 2026

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right, it is 4 o'clock.

As soon as I get everybody's attention. I should. You guys ready? Ready as you are.

All right. Do you need a baton, do you? I've got a next one. Yeah, I need more than that.

I got one. We're rolling. All right. It's 4 o'clock, according to this clock.

And we'll go ahead and call this work session to order and get started. And the first thing on our agenda is a discussion. I propose an update to the annexation policy, Area 7, and Mr. Brandon.

It seems like we were just here discussing this, because we were. So we've had a few things develop in the sense that time. So if you'll remember, at the end of February, or excuse me, the end of the year, 1st of December-ish, end of November, we approved a new annexation plan. And since that time, a few things have developed.

I'll remind you of this. As soon as I can get my screen up, I'll show you the. There we go. I think it's coming.

All right. So this is what we got approved. And this was six areas. Since that time, we have had, there's resources that we've become aware of, obviously.

There's some potential strategic resources that may be of value to the area, to the region, really, to the country. And so what this proposal is, is to add an Area 7. That area, and I'm going to take you down here, and I'll back up here in a second, but just to give you a little context. So on the, let me pop this up here.

So old map, without Area 7, proposed Area 7 right there on the right-hand side. That's really all this is about, is adding Area 7. That's land that's owned by the state of Utah. There's some federal lands in there, and a handful of other landowners.

And so this process, we're going through a process with, in taking this back through. There's no way to, like, amend an annexation plan. There's not an amended process to amend your annexation plan. So we're just taking it back through, which means we have to take it to affected entities.

We have to have two planning commission meetings, and then a council meeting. And so we've had our affected entity meeting. Didn't hear back from anybody yet. We're currently in a 10-day period where we can continue to receive feedback from affected entities.

Haven't seen, haven't heard anything, but we're still in that window. So, again, annexation plans are just our signal of saying, hey, this land is land that we're willing to consider annexation proposals for. So we're not saying this, all these orange areas are necessarily coming to the city. We're just saying, hey, we'd consider proposals.

And then you'll remember, may remember, it's not just a map. An annexation policy plan is a decision-making guide. Oftentimes, I guess, maybe it's just me, but I often think of the map. But there's actual criteria and some considerations that are in there that help you to, that helps the council and the city make decisions about which land to bring in.

So, for instance, you know, a potential reason, we list potential reasons why we'd bring something in. And one of those would be, well, maybe it's economically, economically, an economic value. This land would be economically valuable to the city to have in. Maybe it helps us make some transportation connections and add some land that has some strategic value.

We also identify in there some state code issues that we need to be aware of, like if we're bumping up against Camp Williams or an airport, we might remind the user of the annexation plan that, hey, you need to be looking out for Camp Williams if you're going to annex land. There's some additional considerations that need to be evaluated. Also, you know, our city is unique. And so we've identified a handful of issues that need to be considered, evaluated when we go through an annexation policy plan.

Remember, we have six areas and, or six current areas. And then area one to the, area one and two are both to the south. You can see that, I think this is good land for energy development and utility and transportation, corridor preservation. And then area three is a little piece that may be valuable for open space and recreation.

Area four and five are, could be economic, land that could be very important for economic development, transportation connections. Five, similar thing, but there may be some recreation opportunities there. And six is land that may be important for recreation and open space. So most of this land's already been, a lot of it's been in our annexation plan for a while.

Areas two and three, one, two, and three were, are new as of the end of last year. And then, of course, area seven is this new area that we propose. Like area one, it gives you access to, some more access to Utah Lake. But it also, there, there's some mineral deposits on area seven that are, that are valuable.

And we, we have some potential property owners who are willing to, to work with us a little bit to, to, to maybe make that worth bringing into the city. So, obviously, uh, when you bring something in, there's benefits, you know, maybe there's some strategic value to bringing seven in with, with minerals. But then there's the cost of extending infrastructure and the environmental considerations with, with being right by Utah Lake. So, um, it's not too, we're generally not hitting, hitting, you know, you can see Fairfield's annexation plan.

We're talking clear down here. Um, Saratoga ends just a little pat, their, their annexation plan ends a little past Pelican Point. And then you can see Cedar Fort's not really a consideration, but, or at least they, they're, they're north and we're talking quite a way south. So, um, this area seven, Pelican Point's over here.

So, we're still quite a ways away from, from Saratoga's boundaries. So, just, uh, uh, it's just, just wanted to give you a heads up because we've already had, we've, we've taken, we've had an affected entity meeting, public hearing, and then we're going to take this to the planning commission again for their recommendation next week. And then we, we plan to bring this to you July 7th and just wanted to make sure that you were aware of it and to give you a chance to give us any feedback before, um, before we come to you, uh, in a policy session. And when you went through the document, you saw that just like, uh, the areas one through six, we give a little description of, of the area and, and why it may, you know, some of the challenges and constraints that, that come with bringing area into the land.

So, or area into the city, potentially. So, um, you can, I've given you a document that kind of shows the, the, the, the relatively few changes to the, the existing document and just here to see if you have any feedback. Or, um, anything you'd like to, um, staff to consider while we're working on this. Mayor, can I just ask a question?

Are there any financial obligations of when we annex these properties into Eagle Mountain that exist today that we would be taking over that we need to consider financially or from a budget perspective? Um, not that I'm aware of. I mean, obviously, if they come in, then we, we have, uh, we start dealing with, uh, as they come in, I don't have that open right now. There, obviously, there are, um, utilities and so forth that, that may come into being, but if, if, if it's land that hasn't been developed, it just stays there.

It, it, it, it starts to go through the development process before, you know, before it, uh, becomes much of a concern for us. Like, what, what I'm thinking about is, is, uh, is Wasatch, Wing and Clay, is that currently in Eagle Mountain or is that just outside? It's outside. So the road that leads there, would we then take over the responsibility for maintaining that road?

That, that kind of stuff is what I'm thinking about. We do have, uh, an arrangement on that road already, uh, kind of a joint arrangement, but, yeah, if, if, if, you know, land like that comes in, it, it, it does become more of our, it becomes our responsibility. We could have our own port to Utah Lake. Yeah.

It's like. I, this may be, uh, Marcus or Evan question, but if any of this land has an RDA project on it, does the RDA automatically transfer to us? Do we have to enter into an interlocal agreement if that happens? What typically happens with that?

So if there's an existing RDA with the county, then that RDA would continue to exist, but it wouldn't be with the city. It'd be with the county. We wouldn't necessarily have to. We could, we could work with the property owner to incorporate, um, the incentives that were given to them by the county into, but as of yet, we're not a participant in that.

So that would have to be something that would, we'd have to affirmatively amend. Okay. Any other questions? Is there, I guess maybe I just wanted to state to you that this is the annexation policy plan of where we intend to go in the future, but an actual annexation itself typically would have an annexation agreement by which you would, you know, have a little bit more control and stipulate and how you apply zoning and all that type of thing.

All that could come at a later date. This really is just the plan. Right. Exactly.

Okay. Thanks, Brandon. While you're up there, we can roll on to the next one of the transition lines in the ag zone. Yep.

I'm ready to go. So a few weeks ago, um, we had WSP and Rocky Mountain, uh, representatives from Rocky Mountain. They were looking at the, uh, they, they continue to evaluate this transmission, uh, transmission project from Spanish fork Canyon, uh, over to the Mercer substation down by meta. And, uh, and so they came in and just kind of gave us an update of where that's at.

Um, you can see on the map that, uh, they, they do have this blue lines, kind of their preferred route and I'll, I'll zoom in here now so you can get a little better look at that. They, they have, I think there's like, what is it, uh, uh, uh, three other, uh, um, alignment, uh, other alignments that they could go with, but this is their preferred alignment. And so what we noticed, uh, here, here's a little bit better, here, here's their preferred alignment right here and you can see it on a parcel map and, and kind of in comparison to, uh, to this is our ag, this is our ag zoning down in that same area. So, um, so we, a lot of this land, a lot of this land where this will come through is, uh, is ag.

So it looks like that's probably not even in the city, but as it comes, enters into this part, into this land right here, it's, it's ag. And that creates a little bit of a challenge or a lot of a challenge because, um, our current ag zone doesn't allow for, it allows for public and private utilities. But if you look at the definition of utilities, it, uh, it doesn't mention anything about electrical transmission. And, and so, um, we, we're here to just kind of let you know about this issue, uh, that we don't have an, a lot.

We don't have an ability to allow this transmission line through, uh, through our city in this area to get over to the substation because we're, transmission lines aren't allowed in the ag zone. So, um, I noticed, let me show you this. We don't allow transmission zones specifically in too many areas. This is, this is all I could find.

We allow electrical substations and power transmission lines in the LMD, the MEC, and the office, or actually, excuse me, just the LMD zone, uh, by special use. So, we, we, we are, we've got data centers, they need power. We just have a little bit of a hiccup in our code. Um, and I know this issue's come up before and just wanted to, to bring that before the council to, to, uh, discuss this with you and see what we can do to, uh, help facilitate the completion of, uh, to, to help facilitate this transmission line, bringing power to the data centers.

So, what, what would you propose, are you proposing like a transit, transmission line overlay, or what, what are you proposing? Um, I am looking for, I'm open to suggestions. I think a transmission line is something we've considered. Um, we could also, rather than make a new zone, we could just add some additional standards to the, to the, we could just make it a special use.

In, um, let me open this up here. We can make it a special use in the, uh, in the ag zone and then add some additional requirements. This is, this is kind of our junk drawer code, our junk drawer chapter, where we've got all kinds of, uh, spare codes and all kinds of things. But we could add some additional requirements to kind of beef, beef, beef up that, uh, beef up the, uh, um, requirements and, and, uh, kind of the restrictions on that use.

So that's, that's kind of where I'd like, I personally like the most simple solution possible. Um, and overlays, we can look at an overlay, but I'd really proud, probably prefer to just add some standards to the, to 1775 to our special, special uses chapter. That makes sense. I think we're probably going to have more of this.

I was really excited to see this, that, uh, you know, the ability to create power, it's the substations that we're lacking. Yeah. The ability to distribute power. So, I think I'd support adding to the junk drawer.

My question stems from property tax. If, is, does our property tax collection change depending upon whether or not these power lines are in ag or some other zoning? Does it, do we get less property tax if it's an ag? Is that the actual use?

Is that just the base use and that's why it's ag or is there actual agricultural uses being used underneath and around these transition lines? That'd be my assumption, but I would really want to check with, with, uh, my neighbor, Diana Garcia, who runs, uh, kind of the green belt tax, uh, program for the county. I, I, I'm not aware that, that, that, that messes up that, that ability to have green belt, but, um, that's something we'd have to explore a little further. Yeah.

I, I think I just want to better understand the ramifications financially for us as a city. Um, if we don't have to provide any services like normal agricultural land use, then it's probably okay. But if there's additional things that we have to provide as a city and eggs being used for the junk drawer principle, then I want to look at that and make sure that we're zoning it the most appropriate zone for that land use. You can accomplish it with a special use.

That's the easiest way to deal with this. Yeah. Okay. But my question on the special use is what's our ability to deny in areas that we don't want it?

Because I think if the special use goes in there, there's certain criteria. If they meet the criteria, we can't deny it. So it's effectively just adding it in there. Right.

If they meet the criteria, that, that is the downside to, to adding it as a special use. The, the overlay, that's always, that's, that's kind of the thing with zones in any situation. A zone gives you, if you have the ability to approve a zone, it gives you the right, uh, gives you an extra chance to look at it before it goes in. So an overlay does give you more protection.

My concern is exactly what Councilman Whiting just addressed. And I'm just wondering why we can't address this through a DA. I mean, that gives the city council very strict parameters that they can put in place of location, time, scale, all of that. And to me, that makes the most sense.

So why not put that in the special use then? But this can be granted by development agreement. Uh, I think that's the mechanism that allows us to. So if Rocky Mountain Power is, is putting up transmission lines, they're not going to agree to a development agreement.

That's really just not how they work. So, so how, so how do we, how do we, how do we get something like that in place? I mean, they're going to tell you, these are what we want. If you want the transmission lines and there can be some room, well, room for negotiation, but that's really it.

Like if the zoning doesn't allow it, then it doesn't allow it. That's, they're not going to like give concessions to the city. That's not my experience with Rocky Mountain Power anyways. Can we, can we create a specific zone that would allow just that period?

I mean, that was a council member Huish's first suggestion. Well, he's talking about an overlay. I'm talking about a specific zone. So they've got to come and get a zoning designation change to be able to put it in.

Well, typically they're going to get an easement, right? They're not going to buy the property in a few simple. That's right. I think the overlay may be cleaner because you could just put the overlay exactly where you want it.

They're still going to have an easement. That's why I said the special use makes the most sense. You can still deal with this in a contract, Marcus. Let's have to set the parameters of what that is.

And maybe they're going to say this, this, this, and this have to be in there. And maybe that's the way that is. But you can also be restrictive in saying we're not going to allow you to do, you know, the 100-foot transmission lines right down the middle of this corner. Yeah, well, that's what we would put in the special use standards, right?

So you'd say, you know, it's proximity to residential zoning, you know, height of the lines, things like that could be put into the special use standards. So you don't have to do it ad hoc every time. Yeah. I would prefer just bracket it.

I think we can do that or we don't want it there at all. I mean, that's the decision, right? Put the brackets in place or say we don't have access. Yeah, I mean, I think that was the suggestion was to put standards in place that we can live with.

So that way, if people are, if they're putting it in, you know, so there's certain areas of town that's usually going to be related to proximity to existing residential. I mean, maybe there are other reasons, proximity to other types of uses like schools or something that might be an issue. But I think that's, you know, those kinds of standards can be put in a special use code. Do you know what the standard, I mean, I think you want to have at least some distance, especially if you're dealing with the large overhead lines from houses.

And I know that there's some cities that let them literally go right over the top of the houses. My brother lives next to some in Bluffdale, which is crazy to me. But I think that's probably the main concern is to just. I mean, I will tell you that there were existing transmission lines running through what is now the street that my house is on and run through the park across the street from my house.

It's, I mean, nobody seems to think it's a big deal. So, I mean, as far as a safety concern, you know, aesthetically sure. Yeah, I mean, they run through Alpine homes in Lehigh. I mean, every set of those I've dealt with, people trying to buy the houses or sell the houses with that.

So, they do exist. The question is, what do we care about? What is it that we're trying to prevent? What is it that we're trying to bracket?

Maybe that's, maybe get some feedback from people who feel strongly about it not being this or not being that. We put that into special use, right? Because even if you do an overlay, it's, you're going to have to apply it somewhere. And they're going to come in and say, we want to put it right here.

And you're going to be like, I don't want it there. And they'll ask for the overlay zone. It's better just to bracket it and say where you want it. So, well, wouldn't the overlay do that, though?

That's an after-the-fact thing, though. The overlay, unless you're applying it and saying this is the place where transmission lines can go, they're going to be coming in and asking for the overlay zone of where they want to put it. So, either you're going to have to make the decision beforehand, or you might as well just zone it at that point and say, transmission lines can go through this corridor that we've created through the city, but we're not going to allow them to go anywhere else. I think part of the problem with that is I don't have a crystal ball to understand where transmission lines might need to go throughout the city, right?

Long term. So, that, for me, is why the overlay makes a lot more sense because it's going to require a council decision to say, yes, we're going to apply the overlay zone here. I think those special standards should apply and should be part of that overlay zone. And I guess the concern that I have is maybe there needs to be a tiered approach because we might want some big transmission lines on the south end of the city to support the data center.

We certainly don't want them on some of the foothills or some of those areas that we're trying to preserve just for some unique, perhaps, residential or even commercial uses. So, I think that's where we need to be contemplative about this. Do you have other cities' codes related to this that you've looked at? Not yet.

No. I think that might be a good starting point. Let's see what other people are doing. I know Lehigh has them.

Bluffdale has them. West Valley has them. Basically, West Jordan. I think Harriman.

So, you could pretty much follow that corridor. Somebody's going to have something where they're addressing, even just in a standard. Maybe there's not a zone in there. Maybe that's a starting point for us to take a look at.

Yeah. We'll definitely research all that. But I think I would say this, Brandon. And I appreciate that you brought this to our attention because I, for one, at least, am willing and open to helping find a solution so that we can get that transmission line to that substation.

I want that to be clear. I will. Sorry. I really like the idea of the overlay, specifically because of the public noticing requirements and the public hearing that would have to take place when they come to request that.

And I think, to everyone's point, letting the public weigh in on that, I think, is important. It gives us an awareness of how it's going to impact them. And my other question was, we have those transmission lines that go through the ranches at Liberty Farms, and then it comes over Lake Mountain, and then we have the ones that are at Woodhaven. Would the ones that we're considering for the Mercer substation be larger or smaller than those?

On their website, they gave a range for how large those would be, and it was somewhere in the neighborhood of, yeah, they gave a range. I think it was like 90 to 120. I'm trying to remember. Does anyone know off the top of their head how tall some of those other ones are that we have going through?

This is a major transmission line. It's the exact same thing as the other lines that go through the high voltage. So, like, the Woodhaven one and, like, maybe not Woodhaven, but for sure the Liberty Farms ones. The ones that go down Lake Mountain.

Lake Mountain, yeah. Like, and the thing is, is I don't know that we had any say about where those were going. We just developed around them after the fact, and we're mindful of that. And our code specifically says that you can't have structures under power corridors.

So, like, I think in a lot of ways that is a protection for us. But I still think the best way to handle it is the overlay, because it does have that public hearing process. So, my last question is, I know that along Lake Mountain Road, on the west side of it, we already have power lines going. So, we can't run these new power lines close to those?

It's possible we could look at that, but they, I think they're looking for the most expeditious route, and they're only entering in. They're entering basically right through there. Is there any other questions? Go ahead.

So, what you're saying is they're just going to come in two of those blocks. Are those 160-acre blocks? Those look like sections to me. Yeah.

So, um, 160 acres. Right, exactly. But I'll take that information. I'll research what other cities are doing.

Generally, is there, I'm getting the sense that the council would prefer an overlay. Is that what I'm hearing? I'm seeing foreheads nodding. Yes.

If that's the case, then I can pursue that and look at what other cities are doing. I'll bring some options, but I'll be leaning towards an overlay, it looks like. So, try, we like simple solutions. I'll try to make it fairly simple while respecting the idea that it's an overlay.

One last really quick question, because I have a feeling residents are going to want to know this. Sometimes people think that our rates are going to want to know this. Sometimes people think that our rates are going up because these transmission lines are going in to take care of specific large-use customers. If there's any information that we as a city can obtain and share with our residents down the road about whether or not that's a reality or if that's just the rumor that's going around, I think that would be useful information for us to share with our residents.

I'll, yes, and we can, what we can do is I can work with our communication team and put this website out. The other thing I'll let you know is we do have some representatives from WSP and Rocky Mountain that are likely watching us right now. And I can, I know that I told them I was going to come and talk to you. So, they'll be able to provide me some additional information as well, but we'll help to get the word out.

All right. Thank you. The next discussion, 1C, is the Sage Valley Community Entrance Sign. Mr.

Stephen Lemons has some information. All right. So, we received an application at the beginning of the year from the Sage Valley community wanting to put in a community entrance sign similar to what you see in, I'd say, the majority of neighborhoods here in the city, especially in the ranches. It says it's a fairly uniform sign there, the proposals to put it between what used to be airport or airport road there and the current or the new alignment.

So, it says going to be right here with this orange rectangle. So, the intersection of airport road and Whelan drive. This is what was provided by the applicant, so put it right there outside of would miss the storm light or the storm drain here outside of the site triangle. This is all we've gotten so far from the applicant is these mock-up drawings of what it would look like, the sizes.

The code doesn't really speak to what the size has to be. All it says is that there has to be an agreement with the city to put it on city property. It has to be leased. But outside of that, there's no specific thing.

So, really, the recommendations from staff is we just want to get feedback from the council. Is that something the council is willing to pursue, what they want to see in an agreement. So, we take it back to the applicant and go forward with that. Just to add some color, I mentioned that this was going to be on the agenda, and I'll have to recuse myself from any vote here because this is my neighborhood.

I think I have to recuse myself. Maybe I don't. I don't benefit. It's just for the neighborhood.

It's a discussion, anyway. It's a discussion. We're not voting on anything. So, back before I moved into this neighborhood, Patterson, part of their punch list from the city was to create a monument sign.

Again, there was one that was built at one point. That was before I moved in. And my understanding is when the utilities came in for another part of the neighborhood, that monument sign was removed. So, I don't know when monument signs are created, if they're given to the city to kind of maintain or manage.

But that monument sign was not ever replaced. So, I just wanted to add that for some context for the council. And I have a neighbor that has the original MDA, the punch list. He's got all the documentation, which I don't know if you've seen any of that.

But there was once upon a time a sign. It was removed. It hasn't been added back. So, I think the question is, my question is, is there a responsibility on the city's part, if that was a city sign, to replace it?

And if so, is there a budget for that? The neighborhood's willing to build the sign. They have the technical abilities to do that. The cost to build it is about $3,500 in materials.

In general, to answer that question, the city's been taking those out because they've been in the right-of-ways. Like, for instance, in Cedar Pass Ranch, they're right in the middle of the road. And as we're widening the roads, we're taking them out and not replacing them. Throughout the city, that's been the case.

When we were a lot smaller, maybe they worked. But we've taken out multiple monument signs, mostly throughout the ranches. That's where they were prominent. And they're not being replaced.

I would say if they want them, you're an HOA, right? We're not. Well, maybe somebody's personal property can be put on that. If you put it in the right-of-way, there's a good chance it'll be taken down again, it sounds like.

The location. Oh. Can you pull the map back up what's being considered? So that's the sidewalk that goes up to the middle school.

And I don't know that anything would be developed there. There's just a storm drain in that area right now. Zach, one of the things that I, when we were reviewing this as a staff, you'll see the little sidewalk right here. I'm pointing on the other side.

And then there's a little yellow line right there. So this triangle is city property as well, but less likely to have right-of-way. This portion, that right-of-way, could go all the way to that yellow line. So if the council was interested, I would at least propose, if you don't want it taken out, you know, a few feet further north is less likely to be impacted.

But right where that sidewalk is and that radius is part of what could be future road design or maybe not. You're saying, oh, to move it north? Yeah. I mean, on this side, you can see a little bit better.

Just a few more feet from here is there. This is less likely to be impacted than here. If the council chooses to do something like this, and a lease would still be part of that, however this proceeds. But in general, a lot of the monument signs have been removed and not replaced.

I'm supportive of the monument signs. It creates a sense of place, a sense of arrival, a sense of home, a sense of ownership. I think we shouldn't be removing them. Obviously, if we need to move them, that's one thing.

But removing them, I don't think we should do. I think we should have them. And I'm in favor of Sage Valley doing this. And I'll speak in here.

I mean, it sounds like the residents would be willing to take the financial burden on themselves. That's what I'm hearing you say, Zach. Yes. Is that right?

Yep. So really, they're just asking the city for permission to be able to locate it on city property. Right. And that would require some sort of an agreement.

I think that's what staff is saying their recommendation is that we consider that. And I'm certainly open to that. I mean, we have to talk about if and when it needs to be removed, and there's a likelihood that that could happen at some point in time. I think we need to be realistic enough to know that that road's going to expand, it's going to get bigger, and that right-of-way is likely to change.

Maybe not in my lifetime, but probably in yours, Zach. So assuming we're both still around for a while. But I'm open to that, especially if the residents are willing to take this project on themselves. I think if it put a burden on the city's finances, I might feel differently.

But where the residents are saying, look, we're willing to come and put some sweat equity in this, it's important to us. I agree with what Councilmember Whiting said. It does create a sense of place. And I'm supportive also of what the mayor said.

I understand why we're taking them out of the middle of those road networks. And it's very difficult to get any type of vehicle, a truck and a trailer, and anything bigger than that becomes very, very difficult. And so would I like to see those relocated? The answer is yes, but it's not been practical in those areas where they moved.

What would the maintenance entail, and would that be something that the neighborhood takes on by agreement or the city would have some responsibility for? Do you know about that? I think the neighborhood would, I can't speak for future neighbors, but those that are there today would maintain it. It would be made out of steel and rock, cement, so I don't think there would be much maintenance.

There is a post hole in the back of the sign for a flagpole. So it would be maintained by the neighborhood. I think my point of reference when I ask about maintenance is in the ranches, almost all of those neighborhoods got some sort of monument sign that was steel, rock, cement. And there's probably not a lot of maintenance, but after a while the letters on the monument start to look shabby.

And I think because the ranch's HOA was dissolved, the cities had to take on that maintenance. And I think if the neighbors in those neighborhoods knew what they could do to maintain it, they probably would step up and do it. But it's just clear expectations of who's supposed to do what with it, I think is important. And I think if we agree to do this as a city, I think we'll see more neighborhoods wanting to do something like that because, to Council Member Whiting's point, it does create a sense of place.

It does create that kind of, like, ownership of something. So I'm in favor of the idea. I just want to make sure all of our I's are dotted and our T's are crossed. So you raise a couple of really good points, Council Member Clark.

And so one of the things I'm sitting here thinking about is the continuity of design. Are some going to have flagpoles and some aren't? Are they going to be out of steel letters, stainless steel letters? Are they going to be painted fluorescent pink?

What are they going to look like? Depends on the neighborhood. And so I think that if we're thinking about something like this, I think we should write and create some standards so that there's some continuity in the design and in the application of that citywide. We have standards for monument signs already, so I think it would probably just have to follow that.

And maybe we look at that and tighten it up and make sure that applies. And the next thing that went through my head as you were speaking is what happens when a car hits this? Who's going to take care of that? Who's going to bear the liability of?

Existing city code would require that the applicant take on that burden of maintenance, of basement, liability, indemnification. The problem really becomes, and it would be a lease of the city's property. So who's going to lease it? One individual homeowner?

Or is it going to be, you don't have a homeowner's association. So, you know. It would be the applicant. Okay.

So that's a pretty heavy lift. You know, I don't know that I would sign that. And so the problem becomes, of course, what happens when somebody moves. I mean, we can say, look, you got to either sign the lease or we're taking it out.

I don't know how realistic that is, to be honest, from the city's perspective. So in neighborhoods today, I mean, there's a lot of these monument signs throughout the ranches. Each one of those monument signs, there is somebody in that neighborhood that currently has a legal financial responsibility? My suspicion is that that was part of a common area and the HOA at the time.

And now there's no HOA, so the city owns the signs. So, like, a rival, I think they have an entrance sign? Yeah, they may have it on their property, not on city property. I don't know that for sure.

So, for instance, what you wouldn't need is if you decided to put it, you know, like right here on private property, right here on private property, you know, outside of the city property. That would, those are all on private property. At least that's what he's, yeah. Honestly, that's a safer bet, Council Member Huish, from my perspective, is to talk to those two neighbors and see if they're willing to let you construct a sign on either of those spots.

That removes a bunch of concerns that are going to be raised. I mean, I see you looking at that, and I think that part of the dedication from the developer was that they put the signs in. They were responsible to build them, to install them, to dedicate them to either the HOA or the city, whichever the course was. I mean, I'm trying to think of a monument sign that's come to us in my term, and off the top of my head, I'm not thinking of one.

I wasn't here. I was on planning commission. I'm not taking the heat for the Overland sign. So I think, and I don't want to speak for the applicant specifically, but I think the idea is that the neighborhood would build a monument sign that would add to the culture of the city, of the neighborhood.

When you enter Airport Road, there would be a nice monument sign that adds value to the city, it adds appeal. So as a council, maybe, is that something that we want as a city? Do we want to have that exist? Oh, sorry.

I don't think I would put that on one person to be financially responsible. I think it would be something that the neighborhood could build to code, engineered, all of that. The financial cost would be on the neighborhood to build it and put it up. Something that is high quality, but ultimately the city would own it, yeah, maybe maintain it.

I think we should, well, this is my opinion. I think we should work to find the parameters at which we're comfortable to get this to a yes, because we're looking at right now behind people's homes, land that's the cities, and getting that sold to some of the adjoining property owners, or updating that land and putting in a different trail. We're very much in the process of beautifying our city and setting ourselves apart from other areas, and I think that this is a good step in that direction. I don't know how all of it works out, and I'm sure there's going to be some legal considerations, and who's responsible for what, and all sorts of things.

But I think it's worth the wrestle to try to figure it out together. And if we go through the process and the exercise of looking at it, and it just doesn't work out, fine. But I think it's worth trying to get it to a yes. Is there any reason we can't put it in the easement on the east side of the road?

Where's my pointer at? So in this area over here. That's where most of them are. That's not right away.

That's not in an easement. This is considered the right-of-way right here? That's your property. Yeah, so I'm not sure if those lines are precisely accurate.

But, yeah, anything to the outside of the homeowner's property area is not going to be an easement. It would be part of the right-of-way. That's not a utility easement is what you're saying? I don't think so.

I mean, I haven't looked at this specifically. So, I mean, you would normally click on it to determine, you know, and the county records are going to tell you who owns that property. If it says Eagle Mountain City, then it's in the right-of-way. If it says something else, then it's, then obviously that's not right-of-way.

It says it belongs to Eagle Mountain City. Yeah, it's going to be part of the public right-of-way then, which is what we're talking about. It's what they're requesting. To me, it makes more sense to do it on the east side because there's less likely that they're going to come, start taking the front part of the lawn out.

I think on the opposite side of the road, it's a likely scenario. What are you talking about? It's a loop. That's the entrance off of the airport road into their neighborhood.

Okay. Fair enough. But anybody that lives anywhere besides those three houses comes in and goes this way. I've driven it.

So, it goes to these five houses, maybe. I'm saying it's not a busy road. I don't disagree. Is that going to stay that way when they do the expansion, though, of SR73?

Do you know why they chose that location over the other one? Over the house? Oh, you mean going further north? Up here.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, nobody drives that way. So, everybody goes, they go straight through. And then hook up and then connect that way.

Yeah. So, since the road pattern changed, that gets less use further north. Point. Here.

Use that for point. Where does everybody go? Right through here. Okay.

That's what I assumed. I knew they used to use the other entrance, but since airport road's done, now they're using the south entrance. So, to sum things up, our concerns are placement, maintenance, who owns the land that it's on, whether or not there would be a lease, whether or not the applicant is in charge of maintenance, or whether or not this was received as a gift to the city and the city takes it on maintenance-wise. I don't think we can answer most of those questions.

I mean, is there anybody who's against putting it on the city property? No. That's the first question. I don't have a problem with that.

Sounds like Zach doesn't. Sounds like Craig doesn't. Brett, where are you at? I'm just concerned about any liability that that might bring to the city, that's all.

Oh, we already have them. The reality is they already exist. We have monument signs all throughout the ranches. Yes.

Should we be creating one in this area? That's really the question. Do we want to create an additional liability? That's the question I'm asking myself.

I'm not worried about that. I mean, we already have the liability. They're already there in droves. So, I'm more concerned about identification of areas.

I do think that that's a benefit to be able to identify the area that you're coming to, especially people who are trying to bring packages and things of that nature. All of those things are helpful for directions. I think less impactful on the east side of the road is my opinion. I'd say maybe they'd be smarter to work between those two houses and see if they can get free council members to agree to put them where those white rocks are, somewhere in that area.

That makes more sense to me than putting it across the street. Where that's not the entrance to the neighborhood. It sounds like there used to be a sign there that the city would have had liability for. It got a monument there and it got removed.

So, we're just adding back something the city previously already agreed to take liability for. So, I'm fine with another monument going back up there. There was one there to begin with. I'm flexible as to the location, whether it's east or west, frankly.

And I would also add, if our monument standards don't allow flags, I am supportive that a flag could be added to the monument. So, just a couple things to point out. Not to your opinion. I don't care about your opinion.

But it wasn't the city's. It was most likely on an HOA or private property or whatever when that got expanded. So, not necessarily. Also, if it's on city land and it is an American flag, is it lit?

And if it's lit, who's carrying the burden for that electricity? Is that city? And who's going to replace the flag? So, all of those questions, right?

I think you could do solar. I don't think it would cost anything. But an American flag, I should have clarified. Yes, an American flag only.

Yeah. And most of the stand-up flags that you put in a post, they come with a solar top. So, they project down on. There's quite a few vets in our neighborhood.

We'd make sure that would be lit up. Okay. Go ahead. Do you feel like you've got the direction?

Obviously, there's some questions that need to be asked to the applicant. Do you feel like you have at least some beneficial questions to ask? I think I have enough direction. I'm going to ask Marcus because you're going to be the one right.

My concern is really, like, is the city wanting to entertain a lease agreement? Or is the city wanting to own it? I would think so. Because if they build it at their expense and install it and we want to own it just to, not put that burden on one individual, then we should say that now.

Otherwise, the code says that their code allows for somebody to lease property from the city and that would be an ongoing financial burden for them. If we're going to do it, then the city owns it. Like, if they're going to pay for it and dedicate it to the city, my preference would be that the city owns it. Yeah, I'm kind of looking at it as a gift to the city, much like other things have been gifted to the city, statues and different types of monuments and whatnot.

So I think once it's on our property, we take ownership of it and maintain it. Agreed. I think if we're going to do it, that that's the only way to really do it for it. Because then the city controls what happens to it.

If it needs to be moved, it needs to be removed. It needs to be maintained, all of the above. So if that's where the council is going to land, I think that's probably a better option than trying to put that burden on one individual. I just think that if that's the decision, the council needs to be very clear with the applicant that there's no guarantee that sign stays there.

Right. Okay. Last comment so we can roll on. Does the council have any recommendation on the current location, move it further, a little bit further north?

I think you have a better chance of not having it be taken down. Get moved again? Yeah. Do you feel okay with that, Stephen, talking to the applicant about location?

Yeah. Okay. And then I would just say, let's take a look at what the code is with entry monuments and just make sure, one, that the proposed one is congruent with that, but then, two, is there anything in our code that needs to be tightened up? Because I do think that there will be other neighborhoods that want to do this as a gift to the city, and we should figure it out now, and you guys can be the guinea pig.

All right. Thanks, Stephen. I think we better roll on. Does that cover that?

Okay. And I know you had a comment a minute ago. I don't know if I got to you. You changed your mind?

I was covered. Okay. Perfect. Then I'll just turn it to you on the next item anyway and say, is there any items?

I don't think I have anything. I sent a kind of a detailed email out to the council as I was flying out of town. I just appreciate the council and the staff for filling in for me the last couple days, and I think that's all I had unless the council has questions. Mayor, can we ask that the annexation plan presentation be added either to our packet or the minute so the images are available with the record?

Sure. Is that okay? Okay. Thank you.

Can you take care of that, Brandon? Yeah, absolutely. Work with Lacey. All right.

Let's move on to some of our agenda review. Some of this, I think we can breeze through pretty quickly. Item 7A, fire restrictions. It's information only.

Is there any questions on? Mayor, we did have a resident reach out and ask us if there's any way to further tighten up the fireworks map within the city, in particular, on some of those areas to the south. I just don't know what the process would be to do that at this point in the game. So I'm just asking questions.

I can let Marcus weigh in, but it's up to the council. I think the fireworks map has to be set in place by the beginning of May. So for this year, there's nothing else that we can do. It would be moving forward.

The council can do further restrictions, though, right? That's my understanding. I think HOAs can certainly go beyond the city's requirements. Yeah, I think ultimately the state has put restrictions on us about deadlines so that those can be in place well in advance of the fourth.

Yeah, and I'm not trying to lay that on anybody. I'm just asking the question. The residents reached out and expressed some concerns. Yeah, if they're in an HOA, HOAs can add additional restrictions.

Most HOAs have a process of changing their rules so that they can do that. Additionally, you know, that we can look at the map and tighten it up for future years. But other than that, it's just enforcement. And what are the penalties if someone decides that they're going to do that?

Oh, it depends on what exactly they do. I mean, it could be anything from, you know, a Class B misdemeanor violation to you went and destroyed public infrastructure recklessly and you committed a second-degree felony. So, I mean, it just really depends on what exactly occurs. Okay.

Thank you. Sorry. Mayor, I actually think that it would be a good idea to have our legislative services team take a look at working with some of our state counterparts to fix the code, the state code, and the deadline on that. Because it's really difficult for a city like Eagle Mountain to know in May what the conditions will magically be in June, July, August, September.

And I think that we should have more autonomy when it comes to creating safe zones in our city. And when things are really dry or we're in the middle of a drought, we should have the ability to put a restriction on certain areas based on not emotion but evidence and expert opinion. And I'm happy to have them look into that. My recollection is a council can further restrict even what the fire says and kind of has that ability now anyway.

And then I think, and you'd have to correct me, this is going to be a stretch for me. I've never done it. But if it was a state of emergency, so an executive officer could declare some kind of a, I'm using the word. If it was a state of emergency, then there's additional powers that, that you have for sure.

Um, I couldn't quote, you know, what the, you know, without researching into it, you know, what the, you know, how much you could do in relation to fireworks per se and in classifying a state of emergency due to drought conditions. And that's further restricting fireworks use. Um, but that's certainly something that we can look into. I, Mayor, what I remember about applying it is that when we apply additional restrictions, I feel like it had to be applied to the entire city.

I think that might be right, but, but I know it's, it's available. So, yeah. I'll just share some of my concerns. And one of the concerns that I have is going into this fire season, knowing that we're already dealing with drought conditions, right?

We know that everything is a tender box. And so, I mean, my, my, my plea is, I guess, to the residents to please be careful as you're lighting fireworks, enjoy those celebrations, come participate with us at Corey B ride. Um, but be careful where you're doing those. I live in an area that's restricted and every single year, every single year without fail, several of my neighbors are lighting off big.

Fireworks. And it makes me hyper nervous. And I think, well, what's the penalty? Because to date, the penalty has been nothing.

And, uh, and I think it just takes one, one accident, uh, that creates all kinds of, all kinds of issues. And the other concern that I have is just with our water situation. I mean, if, if UFA has got to fight fires in Eagle Mountain and wildland fires, um, you're going to see our water situation get significantly worse as those resources are. We're drawn upon to fight a wildland fire.

So I just, I think, I think we need to be careful about the way we evaluate it. And I think that we need to hold one another accountable as neighbors, friends, and residents regarding fire restrictions. And, and just the, the, the way that we interact with, uh, with our community at that level. So one of the other things that is part of this, and I've just been waiting, uh, I think I had mentioned to everybody, I forget where we're at, but, uh, Saratoga specifically with four fires in five days had asked that we join with them in, in a letter to the governor.

To, to, to implement stage one fire restrictions specifically on Lake mountain. Uh, the governor did sign an order and I was going to, I think you were in the text message. Have you read the stage one? If you're interested, if not, I read a lot today.

So you're going to read this then. Okay. So when we get to seven, eight in the public meeting, I'll, I'll call you up. Not necessarily now at the seven o'clock hour, uh, but this is, we'll go through this whole thing.

It's the, it's pretty standard stage one fire restrictions. So we will, and that's on state lands that is not within the city boundaries. So I just want to be clear and, uh, yeah, Lake mountain, all of that. So we'll cover that in a minute.

Any other questions on the fire restrictions? Okay. Uh, next we will go on to 10 a harmony, a, a D B plus. Flat 13 into warranty.

Any questions there? Okay. Traffic signal. Um, uh, yeah, the change order.

And that one, I think wraps this one up. That was, um, was it David that had that one? Any questions for David? I think we've talked about this one before.

We're good. Okay. Um, let's see. 12 a was the minutes.

Any corrections? Nothing. 13 a is the consolidated fee schedule. Aaron is here to speak to that.

If there's any questions, not seeing any resolution of Eagle mountain city, approving the recreational sports sponsorship program. And I think this one does have a presentation. Is that right? Jesse Southworth's here from the, um, community services board to address this issue.

So it's, um, it's a sponsorship, uh, policy that, well, Charlotte's here as well, but, um, Jesse's ready to speak on it. Um, it's the sponsor said policy you heard about, you gave us direction and the board went back and reviewed it, made a recommendation. Um, and then, um, Jesse went back and created, uh, the policy document and, uh, reviewed that with me mostly. And then the board has seen that as well, um, um, over email and, and we're here to, to present that.

So, so, so I know there are some questions that I've heard. Uh, we'll invite Jesse to come up maybe. I think the, the presentation was in the packet or no. It's just the policy itself.

So it's not really a presentation. We'll, we'll, uh, go ahead with the presentation, whatever it is, and then ask questions after, if that's okay. That way, cause it might answer some of the questions. I don't have a presentation.

I just have the policy. Oh, okay. And that is in a packet. So if that's the case, then you're open to questions.

Yes. Okay. So I had a few questions. So is it possible to have more than one logo per Jersey?

Are you limiting it to, okay. Four logos per Jersey. Yes. Okay.

There'll be one, the sleeves and then one on the front and one in the back. Okay. And then pricing, it didn't appear to be delineated by sport. No.

So, and the reason why I bring that up is some sports like soccer have way more participants than some of the other sports. And so if there's a sponsorship fee for soccer, it seems like that that fee should be greater than a fee for. Or some of the other sports that don't have as many participants. So as it is now, it would just be a crop, like it would be one fee and it would go on all the jerseys.

Oh, it would go on all the jerseys, all the sports. That, except for junior jazz and hockey. Right. Okay.

That makes more sense then. Okay. Cause, all right. That makes, that, that clears up my question.

Okay. I, I just want to say that I really liked how it was put together and I really liked that the, the scholarship aspect of it. Cause there are kids within our community that can't afford to pay, play these sports. And it's a great way to have local businesses help support them playing in it.

And I think that's a good use of government time. So I was just going to ask on a section 7.2, where it talks about a seven business day appeal window for a denied sponsor is, is that long enough? Should it be 14 days? That's up to you guys.

I mean, I think we, we went over just cause when you make everything take a really long time, we only have a certain amount of time from getting the sponsorship applications to being able to, um, get the jerseys and everything and make sure we have enough time. But if you want it to be longer, I'm open to that. That was any thoughts from the council? Remind me who's, who's evaluating the, like the dispute.

I think it goes to the, is it the community services board? Yeah. And staff. And staff.

And I think the, like it would, I'm sorry. I have to remember exactly what we wrote in here. Final city action. It's the community services board and the manager.

Oh yes. But then they'd appeal, if there's any appeal that they need to do, it'd go to the city manager. So can I bring something maybe to the attention? And this is something I've dealt with like youth council and other, uh, groups as they fundraise and do things that I've heard these questions.

And so that's why I'm asking for direction. Uh, when this sponsorship is collected, it goes into the general fund and unless it gets reallocated back to the program or whatever, it's literally just into the general fund. Um, so what is the purpose of the sponsorship and what did we want to do with it? Um, like for instance, I've heard people say, if we're going to do this, I want to make sure that it goes to the kids that are playing the sports, uh, that it helps reduce fees or things like that.

But we can't allocate it out of a general fund unless we know how much it is. And so, so it becomes a whole budget process. So what I'm asking is if these funds are collected, are they set aside specifically for grants and is it addressed? And I don't remember it being addressed.

So I wanted you to give direction on that. Yeah, I think in my mind, kind of like we're addressing public safety. That's right, man. Oh, go ahead.

It's already in there. So that's actually one of the things I wanted to talk about. Yes. So it's, it's item six, uh, use of sponsorship funds.

And I'm actually against using those funds for equipment, supplies, fields and facilities, certifying coaches and referees and administrative costs. Cause you will soak it all up with that and it'll never even see the intended purpose, which is supposed to go and provide a cost effective recreation program for everybody to participate in. That's what it should be for anything else. Personally, I'm not in, I'm not in favor of doing a sponsorship for, and I'm going to tell you that to be honest.

With you, I think that when people are, uh, wanting to sponsor, they're looking for it to be beneficial to the kids directly. And all of these things are maintenance and administrative in nature. I think we should be funding that out of our regular funds. Sponsorship things should be going directly to the kids in my opinion.

The other question too, I'm, I'm not sure how I feel about giving over all of the oversight to, um, the, uh, staff and to the, uh, to the board. Some of those things where money is involved in that, I feel like that oversight should have, uh, council oversight over that still. Um, I had it marked, but it didn't over, I had it marked with some notes and when I pulled it up, it didn't pull that over. So I can't remember exactly where that part was, but it talks about a lot of the decisions being made by the board and the recreation manager.

Uh, they make the decision and then move forward with it. But once funds have been acquired, I think there needs to be some oversight by the elected officials. Can I address the, the use of the sponsorship funds? Wouldn't the maintenance be also like having, maintaining all of that work to improve this work?

We have a parks department with a budget and they should be functioning underneath the parks department in my opinion. We shouldn't be trying to pay for striping of fields, mowing lawns, weeding, fertilizing out of a recreation budget. What about the equipment for like soccer? Uh, I think there's a first time fee for that, that we've already funded.

Okay. I think that if we feel like that we don't have enough, we can absolutely allocate more money to the recreation program from our fund. Um, this is my opinion. I think that that way it keeps it very clear what the money is being used for, that it is directly going to the participants and their ability to be able to, to play at a certain, um, entry level, uh, amount of money.

That everybody can afford. I think to your question, um, if they fund players, sponsors, uh, scholarships and registration assistance, that $50 or $100 that would normally be paid by that kid is going to go into the fund to pay for things like the maintenance and whatnot. It's just not earmarked specifically to maintenance. It's earmarked to follow the kid that's in the program.

So in effect, it's doing the lower bullet points, but the way that we're allocating it is that the money follows the kids that are in the program. And I think I understand the intent of what he's talking about. It's that we don't want the program to become dependent on the sponsorship dollars that the, if the sponsorships ever went away or if the policy changed, the program would be able to move forward and continue. Um, so I think it's still does what you're proposing.

We just need to clean up those bullet points and it would take care of it. So what should it say? I think that it would just be... I'm suggesting removing those from that.

I'm not... Maybe I wasn't clear. I want to remove the maintenance of equipment, supplies, playing fields and facilities, training and certifying coaches and referees. Right.

And it's all under six. So basically the first two bullets stay and the last bullet stay. Everything in between doesn't. Yeah.

And that's basically what I... The reason for that is the fees should be taking care of your referees. That's what they're there for. They're not for fields.

Um, and if we are, have field supervisors, they're employees of ours. We're paying for them out of a different fund. Okay. So you would keep training and certifying coaches and referees.

That doesn't need to be in there. That's, that's a responsibility of the recreation department. Again, we want this to be something that goes directly to the kids. I have the same trepidations about the way they do things in the school system too.

The money never seems to get to the students. By the time it's been filtered through all the administrative people, it never even got to the point of why that money was there in the first place. Can I ask you to, just for clarity's sake, you continue to say we, and I'm not sure that that's the consensus. Is that you or is that for sure we, we want it to go to the kids?

It's a suggestion. No, that's what I'm saying. When you say we should. No, you have to get everybody else to agree to that.

I'm saying we should. Not me, because it's not my decision. No, but I was, you're saying it as if it's the... I said we should, and I said I would like to see those removed.

So I'm looking for consensus. That's why I'm asking the question. Yeah, everybody else gets the chance to weigh in on it, but I don't make any decisions. That's why I said we should.

I was clear about that. Sorry, what I heard is we want. I didn't hear we should. I heard we want, and so that was speaking for the body, and so I'm clarifying that is that a consensus.

I heard the word want. I apologize. I'm good with removing purchase and maintain, maintain and improve, train and certify, and cover administrative costs and keeping bullet points one, two, and whatever the last one is, because like I said, all of those ones that we're removing do inherently receive funds, but it's through per participant at a time, and the funds for sponsorship follow the participants instead of creating independence on the sponsorships for the programs to exist. Yeah, I think there's consensus.

It would keep the cost low for the participants. Yep. Could I make two suggestions? One, maybe have an additional bullet point that says other one-time uses as approved by the city council so that they have the freedom to come in and ask, and if you guys approve sometime one-time use, that would be fine, and the second, that we segregate this out of the general fund into a special revenue fund so that the money carries over from year to year and doesn't get absorbed into the general fund.

Yeah, I'm totally supportive of the second one. The first one, I'm not sure of, unless you're, if you're going to ask for something like that, I think that the sponsor ought to know that that's what they're paying for. So if there's a one-time thing and you need $300,000 so we can buy 18 new goals, then that should be something that the sponsors are aware that they're paying for. Those sponsorship fees, in addition to the program fees that the students or that each of the eligible participants are paying, would those all go into the same fund, Ben?

Is that what you're suggesting? That's what I would recommend, that you would have it carry over into a fund that's segregated, separated. I agree. And that the flexibility, I mean, inherently, if it's a separate fund, you guys are approving that budget anyway, and so inherently you could set money aside and all that type of thing.

I just wanted to put forward some flexibility to the community services board that they could come back to you and they weren't precluded from at least being able to explore an option. They might come back and say, look, we really want to replace some goals, or we need six more goals and we don't have the resources anywhere else. Would you be willing to entertain that to expand the program? Exactly.

And maybe that's even an emphasis in why we're trying to get a higher level of sponsorship this one time, this one given year, just to afford some flexibility. That's all I'm trying to do. Well, and I think there's safety in that, because what the sponsorship costs are and the menu of sponsorships is already listed out in the policy. So if there was a big ticket item to Council Member Wood's point, it would have to come back to Council anyway for us to have it approved.

So I think there's some protection in saying it that way. Okay, so if I'm understanding correctly, you wanted to get rid of those ones, but add in the, I missed the fourth one, the second one. So we want to keep provide department approved program credits or fee offsets for eligible volunteers. Keep that?

Yeah, because that one would allow for like volunteer coaches to be able to have potentially their kids fee covered and that. And, and then Ben had suggested, um, other ones as approved by city council. How did you word it? Other one time use considerations as approved by the city council.

And then the second one was, and does it need to be use of sponsorship funds or is it in a different part of this policy? Because it's all funds that come in for this. I, I just want to create a, you know, special, just an ability to be able to give you some flexibility. Um, the other one is segregating it out.

And that's really just a directive to Kimberly and myself. That doesn't need to be in the policy. Okay. So one question just about the first bullet point.

How are we determining who qualifies for scholarships, whether they need a partial or a full payment? Yeah, it's really cool. And maybe, and Kimberly asked another question here. Um, it would be helpful to know if the council is expecting registrations to cover a hundred percent of the cost of the program.

You know, a lot of times sponsorships will pay for like the shirts or that type of thing. And so, um, maybe some clarity there might be beneficial. So just quick question. This is on the consent agenda.

Is it close enough that we can leave it there? Or is this going to require a lot more discussion? It sounds like it needs to come back probably in the next meeting. Well, the problem with that, I'll just point this out, is that if we do that, then we're not going to be able to use sponsorships for this coming season because they need to be ordered soon for us to even be able to make the cutoff for the upcoming season that we're taking this on.

So if we pull it and move it to another meeting, um, I, it's going to be problematic for implementing it. Are you saying put it on the agenda for the next meeting? Scheduled items. Okay, cool.

And I'm happy to make any changes in between that you tell me. So that's, that's what I'm wondering is if maybe we give a little direction now to some of the changes and then review those changes during the policy session on a regular scheduled item. Is that what I'm? She's already making them on the fly.

I mean, if you're watching what she's doing on the first one, I'm saying, is that all of them? Are we done or? That's it? There's no other questions or changes?

Rich, did you get that, uh, the procedure, I guess? Is that what you'd call it as far as? Um, I did have another question though that in here, what was attached is this first initial fee schedule. This is what we voted on when, like in our community services board meeting.

Um, but then upon further research and common sense, this seemed to be more plausible. Um, the, the logo on the front should cost more than the one on the back. And so I was hoping that you guys might approve this one as well. So we would replace the one that's in our packet with the one displayed on the screen.

Yes. So the changes made, um, if this was to stay in the consent agenda would be removing the bullet points as discussed and then updating the fee schedule to the one presented during work session. And that is all the changes that we're asking for guys. Yes.

Okay. So I'm just doing some math here. If you'll go back to that one that you were just on. If we have all of the, this one, the space used on the Jersey, what is that total going to be for a 12 month period?

For a 12 month period. That would be, are you talking about this one? If every sponsorship area on the Jersey for every sport is filled. Cause you said that's where I was going to go with that.

Is $7,500 enough? No, no. Ideally we would want more. That's why I kind of feel like you benchmark this though with Saratoga Springs, the fee schedule.

I think this is pretty close with other cities. It's, it's, it is. The reason is, is that we started with just doing logos on the jerseys. That was the initial thing.

We didn't have a lot of time to workshop other options and ways to make it bigger. But that what I hoped was that we would have the opportunity. This is why I was hoping we wouldn't, that we could update the fee schedule with just the community services board and the manager to change it so that we could include more things that are offered based on what makes sense. Things like banners, things like including their links in emails and things like that.

So I, I'm doing in my mind here when, uh, Jason did the, um, presentation to us, I think we had 6,600 applicants or participants in soccer alone. So $7,500 is what we collect from it. That doesn't go anywhere. Did you say 6,600?

For spring and fall? What was the total, Jason? For spring and fall for soccer. Say like $10,000, I think it was like $300,000 or something.

No, it's more than that. For spring and fall in soccer, they were around 1,200 kids. That's what they had. And it's down from, it was higher than that before.

Um, if you're talking, we've, even junior jazz, we've, we've. That had like a few thousand, right? For junior jazz? Yeah.

Yeah, we were, we were almost, almost 2,000 for junior jazz, but we don't, the, those jerseys we purchased through the jazz, so we don't put anything on those. Could I just add, add one thing? I think that where the committee's trying to go is to at least get the jerseys going so they can get ordered. And then the next step would be looking at banners on the fields, maybe naming parks or something like that where we could get more revenue generation.

But this specifically is to get the jerseys so we can print them. I've got a lot more ideas. We just didn't have enough time. I also think that it's clear to council that this is an investment in the recreation program.

And I think we went into it knowing that there would be some costs. The sponsorships are kind of an additional way for us to make it possible for more kids and keep the costs down, but I think we all knew that it wasn't going to be covered solely by registration fees and sponsorships. So I think we went into it knowing that that would be the case. Right.

And as it stands now, the city gets nothing. So 7,500 is better than nothing, in my opinion. I think it'll go fast, the front of the jersey. Have we considered the prioritization?

I would say do it one season at a time. Don't give them 12 months for every single sport. Have it be by sport per season. Because otherwise, I mean, it's not really serving the purpose of the sponsorship to be able to provide scholarships for the people who are participating in it.

You're spreading it too thin for too long of a period of time over too many sports. Part of that, too, is that they were going to be reversible jerseys so that that could last the full year and get a little bit more mileage out of it for the families. We could take it to just the one half of the season, basically, or the fall, like, is done. But it would cover less then, because we have to get the jerseys anyway, the way they are.

So I guess to me, I'm also looking at, this is kind of like a pilot program, and we're going to let them proof of concept, bring it back to us, and then we're going to make tweaks and adjustments and refine it. Just to, I know it seems like it's thin, but is a registration fee $60, roughly? Does that sound right? Yeah.

Yeah, we're right around there. Right around $60. If we can use some of that sponsorship money to offset fees for the jerseys, then that lowers our prices down. Well, that's kind of where I was going.

I mean, I don't know the intent of the council, if it's just to lower the price for everyone, or if it's to sponsor kids that maybe wouldn't otherwise be able to play because they can't afford it, that's 10%, it's $116, that's $60, $7,000, that you could sponsor fully. And there's a possibility of a 50% would make that over 200 kids. That's over 10% to 20% of the kids would get in for free or half price. So I think it goes a little bit further than maybe anticipated because 70, 80, 90% of kids are going to pay the full registration and that covers their costs.

So 120 kids would get in absolutely for free with this program. Well, except for, I think the intent that Jason's talking about is the sponsorship will help keep the overall registration for everyone down because it eats the cost of the jersey, but then the remainder helps to cover scholarships for kids that wouldn't otherwise be able to do it. So I can tell, that's the intent for me, is that the registration, we keep it low. If we're going to do a jersey that's reversible, we should be supporting that being the same jersey because that keeps the cost down for participants to continue to use it year after year.

If we're trying to change out sponsorships every year on that, then they're no longer an interchangeable shirt that can be used for multiple sports, by the way, which I think in one of the things, I'll give some credit to how Saratoga Springs is doing that part of it, that is smart because those jerseys are used for every sport. And that does keep the cost down for, especially people who have multiple kids that are playing that, they just hand me down to the kids and they can play with their blue and white jerseys. So my intent was access fee, keep that low, have them buy the jersey that's reversible that can be used for multiple sports. And the way that it would work too is that it even says in the sponsorship agreement that the jerseys are reusable.

And so the next year, there's a chance that their logo may not be on every single jersey. And they have to be okay with that so that they can use the ones from the last season. So do we feel like this is in a place that we can leave it on the consent agenda or is there more discussion? Where are we at?

Just those two changes, I think it was, striking some of that. It's got to start somewhere. Might as well start with this because we have to have a starting point. But I think that there's work to be done.

So we're okay with leaving it where it's at for today. Ben asked one question that I just think we should put some direction on. Is the intent to, I mean, I think you've kind of addressed that, but the intent is really to cover 100% of the cost, from my perspective, through the registration and to lower that over time if we can. I think we've given that instruction clear enough, right?

Okay, I just want to make sure everybody's on board. Is there any wording in the intent or the purpose that you want me to change? Gosh. Sorry, Jessie, what was the question?

Sorry, is there any wording in, like, the purpose of what this policy is for that you want me to change? Okay. I did have a thought. Maybe I'm going to go back on one, something that I said, to help generate maybe some of the bigger ticket items, perhaps field markers.

They could have a sponsorship for that. It says their name on it. Field one, field, you know, whatever. Things of that nature where we're going to be replacing them every year because they get beat to crap.

That's something that's probably smart to be able to get larger ticket items, more money for those because everybody's going to see that when they come in to look for the fields. So something like that makes a lot of sense to me. And that's something we desperately need for every single sport. So even with junior jazz, even though we're not putting it on their things, marking which court it is with that on there would be a great way for us to do a better service to people and also be able to get some money for it.

How about the meta field with the goalposts that have meta banners or whoever it happens to be, right? Right. I mean, I think that that way they get a good bang for their buck. And it also helps separate it.

I don't know how many of you, I'm sure most of you have been to some of the games, but it's always kind of hard to find where your grandkids are playing or where your kids are playing. It's just field three and I have to travel 12 fields to figure out where field three is. Yeah. I texted Steve about this last week saying that's what we should do with the fields.

So I think- Just promise me you won't do one, three, two. Stupid Sunrise Park in Saratoga Springs. You always did one, three, two and nobody could find the field. Do that.

So is that a change that we want to see here? Do you have like a price for that? Is there some research? Can we add that?

They can go back and- Yeah. The autonomy is there. Oh, because it's not in a rush. Phase two.

Okay. That one's not a hurry. Okay. So I think we've got that.

Any other questions here? Okay. I'm good. Thank you.

Thank you. Appreciate that. All right. The 13C is a resolution approving service agreement with West Coast Code Consultants, the third-party billing permits.

Any questions? No? No, I do have a question on this. I have a couple of questions on this.

Five-year agreement. It seems like a really long time to contract with somebody. I'm just curious why it's five years. And if they want five years, I want to have them give us a discount.

If it's over like a one-year or a two-year contract. Craig, I mean, you realize that these fees, whatever they're charging, are being paid by the developers. I mean, this is just a plan review. This is an alternate.

This is an additional, as I understand it, building inspection team that's going to review plans. And so whatever those costs are, they just go right through, I think. And then I just want to identify, too, this is not an exclusive contract. So this is just that they're going to be an approved vendor for us, that we can utilize their services for five years.

This is what their fee schedule kind of looks like. But we have an additional contract with another company that we do. It is not exclusive. It doesn't mean we couldn't use somebody else.

The attempt here is basically to make sure that somebody else doesn't get to choose who they're using. Right. Because that is an option with the state code. Right.

We have multiple. And then just the volume that we have. So mostly for us, it's because of the volume that we have, we need more than one vendor processing these for us. Exactly.

That's what I've seen in DRC meetings is that WC3 is overwhelmed with the volume of work they're sending to them. And what it's doing is retarding some of those applications from getting through in a timely manner. And so this is an assistance to really to create another firm that has that expertise that can step right in and just help carry the workload. And the costs are all whatever the costs are, and they're passed on directly to the developer.

They pass through costs. And that was the recommendation from finance was to try to lock up prices and things for the next five years. And the idea was like, well, we keep coming back every one to two years with this. So rather than have to do it frequently, let's lock it down for a little bit.

The other thing it does, too, is it gives the vendor an opportunity to recognize that they're going to have a certain level of workload that they're going to need to anticipate. And I think that it locks them into helping us make sure that they're available to review those applications. Right? Yeah.

Okay, 13D is an agreement. No questions? 13E, updating section, Eagle Mountain employee policy procedures. This was Kimberly as well.

Is there any questions or any presentation on that one? No? Questions? Zach?

This was on the cell phone. This actually, this is the COLA, basically, for statutory employees, right? No. Oh, that's the, this is credit card.

This was a stipend, the phone stipend. I just have the title, so sorry. Oh, sorry. The phone, I don't have questions.

Okay. It was on the, I think it was on the credit card. So we're good on that one? What's your credit card question?

So these are the two items that came to the council's discussion at the last meeting that we reviewed, and then this is to ratify it with the change. So, yeah, we've talked about this, and it should have been. Oh, okay. My only, sorry.

I'm going through my notes, and my question was regarding the reconciliations. It just, I think in section D5, it said review the first week, and I just wondered if maybe like having a, the seventh calendar day of the month, or something like having a specific day of the month. So, it, it says just the first week, right? So, for us, when we're talking about the first week, it's because there are times where our close date changes on the credit card statements.

Okay. They have to review and have all their transactions coded within the first week of when the statement closes. They don't have to wait that long at all. You can, as soon as you've made a purchase, you have the ability to code and upload it.

And so, that particular item is more of an internal, like, process about the timeline that we want them to be able to do it. But we'd rather not have it say, like, by the fifth day of the month, because sometimes that statement date changes. It changes. Okay.

Thank you. You didn't have any questions. All right. 13F was a resolution of Eagle Mountain City approving a contract with MHTN Architects for the City Hall and Library Feasibility Study.

Yeah. The comment I wanted to make on this one, I just feel like that we've put a lot of effort and time and wanted a lot more input into how downtown is. And I would like this to have two council members that are part of that decision-making body, rather than us wait until the decisions are made and then say no. That's my opinion, if anybody else agrees with that.

And, Mayor, real quick, we do have Ryan Wallace on from MHTN to answer any questions as well. He won't be shocked by that. We can't hear you, Ryan, but I did warn him that that's probably what the council will want, is more involvement, which is a good thing. And I can attest that they're really great at working with council members because...

Because we broke them in. Well, no, council member Curtis and I worked with them on the Smith Ranch Park. And, like, so I feel like they're great at taking the feedback and pulling us in, so. So I think this is going to approve a contract that will allow them to start work.

I think we're going to have to have some working groups because I know that I've been, that council members have reached out more than two that want to be involved in this. So we're going to have to go two by two or, you know, mayor and council at some point in time as this goes. There's going to be a ton of discussion on building height and design and architectural aspects. So I do think that Ryan and I in St.

George, did it, was it? Okay, and Craig went to dinner in St. George and had lots of discussions about different architectural things. So we can get together two by two and work through this one, I think, without...

Why not just bring them in and let's do a meeting with all of us like they did before? Or notice it. And I think to start with, if Ryan's open to that, we'd almost have to because I know everybody wants to weigh in on where this goes. So I didn't hear that.

I'm sorry. That we should just notice a meeting. Have a kind of a kickoff meeting with the council or I know in the proposal he talks about two meetings with the council. I know he's probably going to want to be more involvement, but we can do it towards the beginning.

We can work with Ryan, but towards the beginning and then at certain stages where it's appropriate. Yeah. So if this gets approved, Ryan, maybe work with staff to pick a date or Ben, sooner rather than later, let's have a working group on this one. Maybe we could meet an hour early.

I don't know if that fits the schedule on a Tuesday just for this and then go into our work session on a regular council day if that works. So we'll work on that. All right. Is there any other questions on that one as far as the contract itself?

Okay. Thanks for hanging with us, Ryan, for all of that. I mean, I just want to make sure because the contract does state what we just talked about. So who they are meeting with and how often they're meeting with, that part needs to be clear.

That it starts with the city council, there'll be a meeting in between and one at the end. I don't think it says that right now. So could we just say in the motion, updating the contract as discussed with the meeting, expectations with the council? Something like that?

Yeah, something like that. Right now it says in workshop five, which is the last step, it talks about two rounds of, no, that's the city review, sorry. Somewhere it talks about city council up to two meetings. But yeah, just, I think that makes sense.

What Melissa said, council member Clark. Okay. Moving on. We have just a few more minutes.

And I do know I have a question here in a second, but 14A is an ordinance of Eagle Mountain City amending the youth council code 245. Is there? I have one question about that. Okay.

And this is Natalie 2.45.040 duties. And it's actually in B, limitations of the city council authority, or youth city council authority. And we're striking number one, which says the youth city council must have a quorum in order to conduct business. I'm curious why we're removing that.

It comes down to basically whoever shows up to the meeting will have a right to vote. And we were concerned if, so we weren't going to limit it to only, say, five youth to being on the city council as voting members. And the youth city council, along with advisors, recommended that whichever youth decides they want to join the city council can be a voting member. And so we just didn't want to have to track, okay, so let's say that there's 15 of them.

Do we need seven, or do we need eight of them to have a quorum at this point? And so the way that the code is now changed is whoever shows up is the one that wants to get a vote. And the mayor will make a tie if there's an even number. So that's why they modified that.

I guess I have some consternation about that. It would be difficult for me if we decided to suspend the quorum of the city council as a decision-making body. And yet we've got the youth council that we're trying to teach and train so they understand the way that government works. And we're saying that there's no need for a quorum.

That's concerning to me on several levels. I understand, Council Member Whiting, where you're coming from, that there's a big group, and are you going to have to count and keep track? But if they're going to make decisions about where the youth council is going to do and pass motions and learn how to actually function as a council, I find it problematic to remove the need to have a quorum present. In theory, the mayor or the mayor and one council member could call a meeting.

Nobody else comes, and they could be making decisions that you don't want to see happen. So the meetings have to be noticed. But what if we did, okay, so there are a couple ways to resolve this. One way would be, okay, a majority, a majority have to attend, or we could say simply, like a minimum number, like there have to be at least five youth present.

I think that would feel better to me, is that there has to be at least a minimum, and that would constitute a quorum. Okay, then let's, okay. And I don't know what that number looks like. It probably, that's a good question.

I mean, we've been consistent. I mean, fortunately, we have more people that have applied this year. That's awesome. Which is good.

It's probably almost double the number than we normally have, which is a healthy thing. So maybe it's easy in the quorum section to just identify we need at least, I don't know. The quorum shall be constituted with a minimum of at least five members present, something like that. Yeah, five.

And if they don't have five, then they can't move forward with voting on something. Do we all feel comfortable with the number five? Okay, I'll make the changes. Council Member Whiting's good with that.

I'm good with that. That was the only concern I had. And the intent behind that, too, is, I mean, they wanted to remove seventh graders. They wanted any youth that joined to be able to have a vote.

And so we simplified some of the language in there. I think if you want participation, they want to feel like they have a say in it. Otherwise, why come? Right.

Right. I was going to say that. I kind of lean towards the body. But at the same token, if you do that, you're always going to have five kids because the rest are just feel like they're tagging along.

If you do this, everybody's involved. It's the only real way that you can grow a program, I think. And it makes everybody feel like they're part of it. And they don't, they're really not making decisions that affect anyone but what they do or whatever, so.

The next one is, no more questions on that, right? Did you clear? 15A, a discussion about the traffic impact study of Silver Lake Parkway connection to Saratoga Springs. Now, I have a question on this one, only because it's been brought to my attention in other meetings, and I don't care how this is handled, but I've heard there's going to be some people here to discuss this.

Do you want public comment during the item or before? It is not a public hearing. That's why I'm asking, am I instructed to get public comment only in the public comment period, or because this discussion is what it is, do you want the public comment to be during the, as the discussion happens? That's all I'm asking.

Can I just make a comment? I think my preference would be to have the presentation, have the council discuss. I think when we bring public comment in, if they want to comment during the opening public comment, great, but when we bring the level of emotion in, with the presentation, it really clouds my judgment. That's just my own preference.

I don't know if council members feel differently. So I'd have them, if they want to make a public comment, do it at the beginning. So keep it in the public comment section. Keep it where it is, and then separate that from when we have the discussion on, if they want to stay and listen.

I 100% agree with that. Because it is not a public hearing, I was just asked, are we going to allow a comment in this session? No, I think we just follow the law and we conduct the meeting in the way that we normally would. We've received a lot of public comment, at least I have, and I'm sure that each of you have, and that's valuable, and I value that.

But there will also be another opportunity when this comes back for adoption. My assumption is it will be a public hearing at that point in time. Can anybody answer that for me? Where's David?

Marcus, this comes out as a public item when we take an action on it, right? When the action item comes on the actual impact study, that would not be a public hearing. No, but if we decide to adopt something to go ahead and allocate funds towards this. Yes, when you implement, if you implement any of the plans from the study, such as improvement to intersections and things like that, that will be a budget decision for which you will be able to formally adopt that as a council.

Yes, when you're amending a budget, for example, or adding it to the budget, there's a public hearing associated with that if it's not currently budgeted for. And I want to be clear, I'm not saying that we shouldn't receive public hearing or public comment. That is available every Tuesday night that we meet, and we're willing to entertain any and all of that. But I think that to continue to make exceptions for each of these items, I just think that's a practice that we should discontinue.

Yeah, I think the only time there will be a public hearing is during a budget. I think we need to make sure that we're intentional in letting them have an opportunity to speak about this when it comes back as an action item. They need to have the ability to express how they feel about it, for or against it, and everybody ought to get a chance to get it out. That way there's no question in anybody's mind that they didn't have a chance to give public comment on it.

Yeah, and I'm okay with it. I don't really care. I just asked the question. But real quick, I just want to say one of the reasons why I considered it is I think if they heard the discussion of the council, we might save ourselves 30 or 40 minutes in public comment because they might see where the council is leaning, and that could save a lot of time.

Otherwise, we just got to listen to everybody. So I thought, well, that could be beneficial, but I agree with just staying where we do. I was just going to say there will be people here. Maybe let them know if they're here to make a public comment to do it at the beginning of the meeting.

That's why I was asking. That's what I wanted to know. Be intentional, though, and also let them know we're not taking action today. So if they want to give a public comment, it might be good for them to hear what the traffic study discussion and all that is, and then they'll have an opportunity to come back and give their feedback when we take action.

That way it at least gives them a chance to understand what we're discussing. That's just a thought. Right. 16A is a resolution.

This is a public hearing. It's approving the Third Amendment to the 2025-2026 physical year annual budget. I didn't hear any questions. I did get an answer to your question that I can tell you.

17A is also a budget, which is a truth in taxation. I've read it every meeting we've had, but it's the same certified tax rate. 17A is the compensation increase. It's what?

Compensation increase. 17A. Yeah, that's the one I was talking about a minute ago with the executive officers in the fiscal year budget. And it's no motion on that one.

Those are two separate. 16A is the fiscal annual budget. 17A is the proposed compensation increase. Yes.

Any statutory officers with the COLA and whatnot. And it's a public hearing only. Sorry, I got ahead of myself. That's why I'm on.

And then the next one is the same. This sheet that I've read every time. It's our certified tax rate, which actually is the 23rd. 22nd is when we'll actually get it.

But as of today, the project is 218%. That number would be the official number if you choose to continue with the proposed revenue that's in the budget. We did get our final valuations from Utah County that were due by the 13th. And so we got those last, I think, Thursday.

So we made the amendments so that they were in the packet. Those percentages and stuff would only change if the council chose to change the dollar amount of revenue that is being proposed to come from property taxes as part of the budget process. No questions on that one? And then 17C is the resolution adopting the fiscal year interim budget and the proposed certified tax rate.

Anything on that one that we can sort out? Okay, and then the last one, 18A, is Ordinance of Eagle Mountain City, Utah, amending the Eagle Mountain Municipal Code 1615 on concept plans. And I know Brandon Larson had some information on this one. Yeah, I can talk through that a little bit.

This one, essentially what we're trying to do here is just trying to improve our development process a little bit. So one of the things that we're trying to focus on is trying to look for, trying to make sure that right at the front of our development process that we are looking to make, looking and ensuring that we're making connections for utilities and utilities and roads. And so the big thing here is, I guess a couple of things is just requiring some additional documents or clarifying some of the documents that we are already are requiring. Essentially asking that the developers to give us some information to show that, you know, for instance, one of those documents is supposed to show how they're going to connect with the road system within 500 feet of their proposed development.

The other thing, too, got some feedback from a council member that maybe it might be good to be a little more judicious on how many concept plans we bring to you. So the proposal is to generally try to take concept plans and have them end at the planning commission unless there's, I mean, there's still an ability for us to bring them on, but generally have them end at planning commission and then just take them on to council on a case-by-case basis if it's necessary. So, but anyway, that's kind of in a nutshell what the proposal is, and then I guess the other big thing is that the concept plan would be, is typically been a, it hasn't been required, but it would be required for master developments, preliminary plats, and re-zones. So, the one comment I have on this one, I just, thinking back in the last 12 months of when we've had them come forward to us, I think the most important thing for me is to show the full traffic circulation plan.

So, if they're, even if they're bringing phase one in, if this project has six phases, all six phases, circulation needs to be shown. Yeah. Because that's really what matters at that phase so that we aren't running into, basically, they're just putting in a stub here and it's going to cut off the rest of the project or adjoining properties, et cetera. So, to me, that would be a useful purpose of the concept plan, is to be able to see what the traffic circulation plan is.

Right. And frankly, the infrastructure, the utility infrastructure planning for me, I mean, having spent some time recently at the conference in Habert regarding water, and just spending a little more time with our public works department, we really need to do, be more effective is probably the way I would put it in our initial review of any conceptual plan as to how we're going to service that. And what are going to be the impacts to the system overall? Do we have the capacity and the capability of servicing it in a way that is meaningful, or are there going to have to be some additional steps that are taken to be able to service it?

And then the demonstration that there's actually water that can support any plan that might work its way through the system. So, I like this. I think it's helpful. Okay.

If there's no other questions, I did want to remind you just real quick that there will be an RDA meeting. There's some minutes on there, and then just the agency board adopting the RDA budget for a physical year, 26-27. Does anybody need to go over any of that? I just wanted to ask, before we go into closed session, since the council didn't have any questions on the budget amendment, did you want Terrence to stay and give a presentation, or are you okay with him heading out?

The budget? Budget amendments, not a closed session. Speak into the mic so all of us can hear what's going on. If I wanted you to hear it, I'd say it louder.

I'm trying to work it out in my mind here. Okay. Relax for a second. Does Terrence need to stay?

You don't think so? Okay. Okay. I don't think there's any questions on the budget amendment that I can see.

Do you have a question? I was going to make a motion. Okay. Yeah.

Go ahead. Mayor, I make a motion that the city council adjourn into a closed session for the purpose of discussing discussion of pending or reasonably imminent litigation, the character, professional competence, or physical or mental health of an individual, the purchase, lease, sale, or exchange of real property, a proposed development agreement, project proposal, or financing proposal related to the development of land owned by the state or a political subdivision and or the deployment of security personnel devices or systems pursuant to section 52-4-2051 of the Utah code. Second. Okay.

We have a motion by council member Huish and a second by council member Clark. And we'll start the vote with council member Clark. Yes. Council member Wright.

Yes. Council member Whiting. Yes. Council member Wood.

Yes. Council member Huish. Yes. Okay.

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All right. I think we're ready. It is seven o'clock. We're going to start on time.

And I know that's odd. That's why I said that. But before we get started, Brett's offered to say prayer. Our Heavenly Father, we're grateful to bow our heads in prayer this evening and express our gratitude to live in the United States of America and in the state of Utah and in particular in the city of Eagle Mountain.

We give thanks for the beautiful mountains and the rivers and streams and just the sunshine that we've enjoyed lately. We express gratitude for one another. We're grateful for the citizens who have made time to be here this evening and pray that their voices will be heard. Bless us as decision makers to exercise wisdom, to listen, to evaluate, and to make the very best decisions that we're capable of making on behalf of the people who we represent.

We pray for our staff, Father, for our first responders, for all of those who serve this community faithfully and pray that thou will bless them with the health, strength, and safety that they need to do their jobs effectively. We pray for wisdom and guidance as we make the decisions that we're about to embark on and pray for our mayor and for the council, for our state leaders and for our national leaders. We express gratitude for the opportunity we'll have soon to celebrate the independence of this great nation and do so in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

All right. It is now 7.02 on June 16th and we will call this meeting to order and Council Member Clark will lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance. Please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you. All right. Mr. Bain, any information items?

Yes. We have several. First, a shout out to those who helped with and participated in Pony Express days and the rodeo last week. Especially appreciative of all those great events and all the staff and the support of the mayor and all of the crew at the Pony Express events.

They did a fantastic job and it really brought our community together. The food truck rally will be held every Thursday from 6 to 9 p.m. starting June 4th through August 27th. We have a movie in the park on June 19th at Silver Lake Amphitheater from 9 to 11.

The film that they're going to be showing is Lilo and Stitch. There's a movie in the park on June 26th at Cory Ride Park 9 to 11 and that film will be announced to be determined. The farmer's market is every Saturday at 9 a.m. to 1 p.m.

from June 6th through October 10th at Cory Ride Park and the fireworks show will be on July 4th from 8 to 9 p.m. And so we're excited to honor our 250th year. Yeah, thank you. Lots of fun events.

Summer, we got through Point Express days but the summer keeps delivering some fun stuff. Another fun thing, we have a lot of employees and they come and go all the time but not always in this level and not always in the forefront where people can yell at them and need to know who it is. No, I'm just kidding. But at this time I want to invite Brad and Zach to introduce our new employee that came all the way from the West Coast in Washington.

So, or just Zach here. Just Zach? Okay. Good evening, Mayor and Council.

I am pleased to introduce Kyle Markstrom who has taken our parks manager position. We were able to steal him all the way from Washington State. and like it is always my pleasure when I get to introduce someone I always tell them to come prepared to tell a nice 20 minute speech. So, yeah.

Clearly he's not but I really did. He laughed. So, but I'll turn the time over to him and let you guys meet him. Mayor Gray, council, city staff, citizens, happy to be here tonight.

Appreciate the opportunity with Eagle Mountain City. I'm looking forward to serving this community as your parks manager and working with all of you to further the goals of the council and live here with my family and enjoy this great place. Thank you very much. Appreciate the opportunity.

Thank you. Tell us a little bit about your family. You're bringing wife and some kids down. Yeah.

My wife, Kara, my four-year-old daughter, Natalie, will be joining me the first part of August. My wife's wrapping up her commitments at work back home and selling our home and they will join me here. Natalie will start kindergarten in the fall of 27 so we're really excited about that and finding a great school for her down here and look forward to diving into the community, getting involved. The community I came from was really involved in lots of service organizations and on a number of non-profit boards and served as an elected official in my community and so I'm looking forward to really diving in, getting involved and doing what I can to be a good employee for Eagle Mountain but a good citizen for the community as well.

Enjoys wildlife and outdoors. Yes. All the fun stuff. I love it.

The hunting opportunities in Utah were a big draw. I think I speak for most of them. They really, really take pride in our parks and we're excited. I don't know.

Welcome to make any comments. Well. Yeah. So thank you.

Welcome. I was just going to say did you bring the water with you? And you've got a lot of work to do, brother. Yeah, I didn't.

But yeah, looking forward. Thank you. Welcome. Thank you all.

Yeah. All right. The next item 7A is information about some fire restriction orders and I don't I meant to give you this earlier but our fire chief he's filling in for Chief Fossum today he's going to read from the state of Utah it's the stage one of the drought restrictions from this signed by President Cox and or governor yeah, he's a governor sorry. Don't elevate him.

A little off my I'm off my game. Okay, I'm on Mayor and Council thanks for having me here today I should have brought my readers I didn't know I was going to have to read such a small I do I feel pretty so thank you my name is Ken Aldridge I'm battalion chief with Unified Fire also known as the best Embrick could do on short notice so thanks for having me I appreciate it Fire restriction order stage one due to current and forecasted weather conditions coupled with the extremely dry vegetation conditions in Utah County State Forester in consultation with the county commission of the affected county has determined measures must be taken to prevent the ignition of forest and rangeland fires therefore pursuant to the Utah State Law section 65A-8-212 the following acts are prohibited in the areas described below until rescinded by the Utah State Forester one no open fires allowed except in the following cases in approved fire rings or grills at developed campgrounds or day use area on public lands that have pressurized running water system or in permanently constructed fire pits at a private residence that have pressurized water system available two smoking except within an enclosed vehicle trailer or building developed recreation site or while stopped in an area that is paved or free from dry vegetation three discharging or use of any fireworks tracer ammunition or other pyrotechnic devices including exploding targets four cutting welding or grinding in metal in areas of dry vegetation five operating a motorcycle chainsaw ATV or other small internal combustion engine without approval without approved and working spark arrest or the following persons are exempted from the above prohibitions persons with a permit or waiver issued by the division specifically authorizing specific act at a specific location and a waiver does not relieve the permittee of liability if a fire does occur and any on-duty firefighter in the performance of an official duty area description unincorporated areas of Utah County it does not affect private lands within incorporated towns or city limits any of the above acts is a violation of state law punishable by six months in jail up to six months in jail and a fine of up to a thousand dollars these restrictions will be enforced by county law enforcement that's all and I will entertain any questions from the councilor and mayor thank you so those fire restrictions are in effect and we appreciate you helping us out with that so you look great I'm sending that picture of your PIO okay now our favorite part of the meeting that I know you're all excited about just as a note they're back in that corner by the door on my left you're right there's a blue folder I think has forms for public comment if you intend to make public comment go ahead and go grab a form fill it out and return it over here to our recorder Lacey it is now 7-11 and time has been set aside for public to express their ideas concerns and comments please limit your comments to three minutes I will now open the public comment period as a reminder public comment is an opportunity for community members to address the city council and each speaker is allowed up to three minutes if you wish to speak during the public comment portion please complete the comment form located in the back and return it to the city recorder council members will listen but not engage in discussion during public comment disruptive behavior personal attacks or comments about individual city employees are not permitted if you have issues questions regarding staff or personnel administrative staff will meet you in the foyer for further discussion and Steve's our point person if you have a personnel question he'll meet you out back lastly public comment period is for items not associated with a scheduled public hearing if your comment relates to a public hearing item please wait until that item is called so the public hearing items today that you could wait for are 16A which is a public hearing about the 2025-2026 physical year annual budget it's an amendment 17A a public hearing pursuant to Utah Code 1038182BI consideration of public comment on proposed compensation increase for executive officers and then 17C resolution of Eagle Mountain City, Utah adopting the physical year 2026-2027 interim budget and certified tax rate and then 18A an ordinance of Eagle Mountain City, Utah amending the Eagle Mountain Municipal Code 16.15 concept plans those four items will be later in the meeting and do have time for comment during the item anything else including item 15A which is just a discussion today there is no action on 15A which is the study of Silver Lake Parkway connecting to Saratoga Springs it is only a discussion but now is the time to speak on that item and any other item that you so feel appropriate with that at 713 and Lacey we do have we do have quite a bit for the traffic so I'll do the miscellaneous ones first I got one from Jody in our inbox earlier today who stated Mayor and Council I know that most of you I know that most of you know that I live on the unpaved portion of Lake Mountain Road to the north of Eagle Mountain Boulevard I'd hope that you would ban any fireworks in the subdivision on the north of Eagle Mountain Boulevard and where Lake Mountain Road intersect before now she says in years past I was told by the mayor and some council members that the decision had to be made by the fire department I'm at a loss as to what to do as to why there should be a question I would have not only have to evacuate not only my family but 19 equines and I'm not the only resident on the three mile stretch with similar circumstances and then she says well I know and I joined in the celebration of 250 years don't let the possibility become tragic for anyone the perfect scenario would be a blanket ban for the city and at the very least any developments or parks that are bordered by potential fire fuel so that's from Jody Hooley and then we have Lexi Jackson who I believe is here my name is Lexi Jackson and I'm a member of the Ecomine Youth City Council I'm here tonight because the youth of the city needs your intervention to protect the integrity of chapter 2.45 of our city code section 2.45 point 030 states that the explicit purpose of youth council is to provide an opportunity for us to learn to represent representative government through active participation currently that law is being bypassed the youth council is being stripped of its voice during the pony express day parades decisions regarding our participation were made entirely without our vote or consent a youth city a youth council hosted radio dance was dictated to us as a personal project of an advisor not a council initiative despite being told our presence wasn't important for the parade or rodeo parking my siblings and I who are in the Eagle Mountain Youth Council showed up independently to serve our community anyway more alarmingly the adult advisor who created this personal project making them the assigned advisor to supervise and advise us abandoned us at the dance early the event was scheduled until midnight but by 11pm they were all gone leaving the youth unattended and creating a severe liability for Eagle Mountain City furthermore we have a reason to believe that individuals are operating and making executive decisions as advisors without being formally appointed or sworn in violating section 2.45.020 with youth council elections occurring next month we are concerned that municipal procedures will not be followed how can we learn civic responsibility responsibilities from an organization that requires its own bylaws and compromises youth safety we respectfully request that the city council or city attorney be present for the Eagle Mountain Youth City Council Mayor elections to ensure the compliance of the committee codes Rudy Chavez and he also has a handout for the council good evening mayor gray city council members how are you guys today I serve as the American Legion Post 111 commander have been for the last three years the American Legion Post has existed since 2018 it has grown over the last year in the past we have served this community for just not veterans but also the community in service to the city it's been more of an as needed request but what I have submitted to you guys is a draft memorandum of understanding requesting that we try to formalize this a little bit more so we can plan more accordingly when it comes time to help support the different city events some of the things that are requested in there are appointing a liaison some small discretionary funds to like replacing ceremonial flags things like that on an annual basis and then identifying the different public events that we would help support thank you the next group that I have the rest of these are for the traffic discussion so Melissa Powers and then next one after that will be James Meyer in the queue hi my name is Melissa Powers I live in Evans Ranch I just wanted to thank the city council and Mayor Gray for all the time and effort you put into serving our community and I know this job isn't easy and I appreciate the countless hours you spend trying to do everything for us in Eagle Mountain I'm here tonight in support of building the Silver Lake Parkway connection and moving forward as soon as possible I love living in Eagle Mountain my neighborhood and the surrounding area are full of families who care deeply about where they live we care about our schools our neighbors and the future of our community I love that when people from our area come together they show up get involved and work hard to make it a great place to live over the last several months I've had countless conversations with neighbors friends and residents in my area every time this topic comes up the response is overwhelmingly the same build the road the new high school is coming more families are coming growth in this area is already happening but for many of us this isn't about some future need we already feel the need today we already experience the traffic the congestion and the limitations that come from having so few connections in and out of our area from a resident's perspective the connection just makes sense Saratoga Springs is already moving forward with their portion we'd simply like to see Eagle Mountain move forward as well to wrap things up I wanted to make sure you heard from residents who support this project there are a lot of us and we are grateful for your willingness to listen thank you for your service and your time tonight after James will be Nancy Strickland thank you for giving us this opportunity to voice and I'm totally in agreement I'm totally for the Silver Lake connection my family we've lived here for the last coming up four years and super invested already in the high school I mean I reached out to Melissa Clark I don't know if she remembers but I teach high school over in West Jordan and when I heard that there was a high school that was going to be built literally within half a mile I was so excited for that I knew that this was a place where I would be able to potentially build my future that my children my three children would be able to go and also just the fact that it will help to unite both Saratoga Springs and Eagle Mountain specifically and not potentially create a rift you know where it's just a Saratoga Springs school no this is both Saratoga Springs and Eagle Mountain and so I want them to be able to see that and also keep our kids off of Pony Express I mean that road is dangerous enough as it is there's no need to have everybody rushing to class on that road being on the road you know potentially three times longer than they need to be when we could just have a nice direct route all the way there thank you after Nancy will be Catherine Anderson Nancy Strickland here no Catherine Anderson I didn't realize I marked to speak sorry I'm Catherine Anderson I also live in Silver Lake I too third what has been said we've lived in Silver Lake for almost six years and we have had a child that has graduated from West Lake we have a junior who's going to be a senior in the fall and then a son at Vista and a daughter who is actually switching schools this fall because our boundary split on our street so I feel like we have a good scope of our area and where our kids are going to school now and it is a feat to get to school I will put a little vouch for the fact that the lights were pointed at Vista that was a huge saving grace to us parents that are about to kill each other when we drop our kids off trying to get in and out but I totally agree with what's been said I feel like Pony Express in itself if we can keep our kids off that road giving them a safer route where they don't even have to drive if they chose not to and they could walk to school or bike to school that would be great I feel like there's so many schools in a small concentration and a lot of vehicles between those two locations and then all of us getting to work and trying to get across Pony Express and onto Redwood if we had another access route that would take us where we need to go and our kids where we need to go it just makes complete sense I for one am all for it I know my children are all for it and would much appreciate the fact that if if they are set to go to the new high school that that's going to be an accessible point for them thank you I did just realize you marked no verbal comments so my apologies which which brings me to the next one Corey Anderson did you own I can add it to the packet or would you like to speak Alex Christensen it was great to hear her accent don't you all agree I loved it all right hi my name is Alex Christensen I live in Silver Lake I got a chance to meet the city manager Melissa Ryan Benjamin Jared and Zachary at the Silver Lake HOA clubhouse I want to thank you for the first of all the opportunity to talk I'm here to strongly urge the city to move forward with extending the road for the Silver Lake connection in our neighborhood connect directly to the new high school a little over a month ago when I met with many of these individuals at the clubhouse the turnout was incredible it was easily as many as people that are here right now so if you weren't there it's like only so many council members are allowed to show up before like you have to have you know the timer and all that stuff so unfortunately you guys weren't there but you should have been because the mayor took out his phone and took a photo of everyone that rose their hand when they said hey who wants because hey nobody wants the road it's like actually everybody in the room wanted the road it was the number one topic that night and we have busy families I don't know about you so my alarm was the one that went off that sounded like World War III I'm in IT so I came while I'm working plus I canceled my overnight camping trip tonight with my wife so that I could be here she's like what's more important and I said the road I'm not joking okay so this road extension would provide safer more direct access for the students walking or biking to the new high school my son Elias had to cross over Silver Lake at the new light went down the sidewalk there is no sidewalk on the south side of Pony Express on his moped and when he crossed Pony Express a lady ran the light thinking that she could make a right hand turn he went up over the hood and smashed the windshield and broke his arm that is a crazy dangerous road there's absolutely no reason for any student to be on any type of motorized I mean I've even had to look because people are on their motorized just regular bikes and those bikes go 35 to 55 miles per hour on their bike you go down the sidewalk at that speed I'm just telling you it's a bad idea to have any kid get into school on a Mountain View corridor Pony Express I hope all of you understand how important it is to create a just more you know direct route that just bypasses all that let's see here I think oh this is what I want to say so there's a clear and distinct impression from everyone I've dealt with that they want the road and sometimes we get feedback and obviously I don't know the name and I'm not trying to call on anyone but city council people that may not want the road or they haven't heard that people want like nobody wants it look we just want our representatives to understand that the will of the people in that entire Silver Lake neighborhood want the road I think it's your job to just step up and give us what we want as an entire community and I hope that there's no personal bias or you just do what the people want thank you very much Brian Morris hi my name is Brian Morris and I am also from the Silver Lake neighborhood and I'm here to voice my support for the connection specifically because while my kids are still in elementary school I want this road for when they do go to high school and that I can be comfortable and feel that my kids are going to be safe as they get to high school they don't have to worry about any of the congestion or traffic that's already been highlighted before and I think it's important that we have an alternate route out of the neighborhood as we only have that primarily that one road to get out to Pony Express Highway but to have an alternative route in case of an emergency would be very important to me so thank you Jeff Bean hello my name's Jeff Bean I said this two weeks ago so I'm not going to repeat myself but I do support the road also I'm in the Silver Lake neighborhood I support the road being built but I wanted to also one thing I forgot to say two weeks ago the reason I came up again is I do want to make sure another thing gets addressed when we're talking about roads in Silver Lake and that is the crosswalk near Brookhaven Elementary I think that it's only a matter of time until someone gets hurt there seriously hurt you know could be lethal it's a very dangerous intersection and the kids are crossing because it's convenient but it's not a safe place to cross I think it makes a lot of sense as we're talking about Silver Lake and the roads in Silver Lake to prioritize turning that into a four-way stop or putting a large speed hump there whatever it takes to just make sure that that's a slow road because there's a lot of kids crossing the road right there the other thing related to roads I just wanted to throw an opinion out there and that is and this can be disregarded but I know that part of the traffic study suggests that the roundabout closest to where the new road would be built gets turned into a traffic light I think a lot of us would enjoy keeping that as a roundabout if that's possible it doesn't have to be it's not a deal breaker but I think a roundabout does help keep the neighborhood the way that a lot of people like it and then finally this is a little bit unrelated but as we're on the topic of Silver Lake one of the we're a little bit of ways away from here and from city center and most of my neighbors I don't think even know that we have a library in Eagle Mountain it's just a little bit of ways away it's not always on our way to get here also we do go to the library when we get books sometimes we enter delinquency status because we have a hard time getting over here to return our books one thing that I think would be very helpful in bringing the library to more of us is just having a drop-off location I think Ridley's parking lot or somewhere near there would be a great place where people who are in the ranches first off just see the fact that we have a library it's almost like a free advertisement but also it gives a chance to make sure that hopefully we're keeping ourselves out of that delinquency status and having a way to return our books a little bit easier so that other people can enjoy them and that we don't hoard them like sometimes unfortunately I do so appreciate that thank you for your time and for your service Ben Perez hello mayor and city council members my name is Ben Perez and I wanted to just kind of share obviously the same sentiment support for that but I wanted to call out a couple things in the traffic study previously was called out the lack of information on that crosswalk as I've tried to bring up a lot the traffic study doesn't have data about that intersection that is Silver Creek Way and Golden Eagle Road also the study states that there are posted speed limits of 25 miles an hour and there are no posted speed limits so I want to make sure we consider that and on top of the high school which I know is a hot topic of getting that road connected I think it's really important to consider that while the traffic study is helpful it's great data it doesn't consider things that are out of our control like weather in the squall that we had in January of 2024 getting up the hill going west on Pony Express was an absolute nightmare and no one had another way to get home and so we need some other options not just getting out and having through because the study calls out Saratoga Springs is bringing traffic into the neighborhood as much as it is people trying to get into their neighborhoods and through the city a different way and a safer way instead of congesting the only way into the city and then also while we have no data on that intersection the PTA and the SEC of Brookhaven Elementary have spent time out there counting the amount of accidents that have almost happened near misses and have had recordings of videos as well and we're happy to help provide that information as well we want to keep our kids safe so there's a lot of things that we can't undo about Golden Eagle Road but I feel like this is a really good opportunity to right some wrongs and to find some good solutions just to keep our kids safe on top of that both for the elementary schools that are there and for the future high school just to keep our entire neighborhood safe thank you for your time thank you thank you thank you Lindsay Peterson hi my name is Lindsay Peterson I'm also from the Silver Lake community and I also want to just stand in support for the road to be built through I like a lot of points that have been mentioned again just unifying the two communities but above all I feel it's such a safety issue to have multiple ways to access in and out if there's ever any emergency if you know whether evacuations need to happen medical personnel brought in maybe both having multiple avenues could possibly save lives in the future so please consider the road thank you and then the last comment that was received in our office was from the new principal from the high school he is actually out of town at a vacation right now so he requested that we read his comment on record so he is the new principal of the high school he's excited to work together with Eagle Mountain Saratoga and ultimately he says please do right by our community by creating the safest access possible for our students while also building the road infrastructure necessary to handle the tremendous growth that is headed our way so I'll make sure that's part of the packet as well and that is all I have okay is there anyone here that did not get the opportunity to speak that would like to last chance come to the mic if you would and turn the mic on please I've never needed a mic but I'm just kidding sorry I could you state your name for the record and then sell out a paper when you're done yes I will yeah so Justin Cool I live in Evans Ranch neighborhood I've been in Evans Ranch about six years but I've been this way for about 15 16 years I moved from Neptune Park here in Saratoga so like I barely dipped my toe in Eagle Mountain and apologies I filled something out online but I probably foobarred that somewhere so that's on me but yes I wanted to just speak in favor of the road as well I believe in not complicating things and keeping things simple right the acronym KISS keeps simple and you know we can fill out the last one right but like I'm not saying like just blindly follow things but like this one seems like an obvious one this feels like a low hanging piece of fruit a layup whatever the case may be that Wemby didn't do in the finals and it's just like we it just seems really obvious that this one would work right in things of that nature from a safety standpoint anytime you can have more access and I know we're talking about you know safety and some of that nature too and I don't pretend to know how this would have altered things I mean it's not like there wasn't a fire like a couple feet from everybody's house at Brookhaven and stuff like that again another access point my daughter Boston goes to Brookhaven so I'd love to also chime in on the you know the crosswalk and everything like that at Brookhaven she's a spit fire you know I'd love to pretend like she follows all the rules that I set for her but sometimes kids dart out and things happen like that right and anything we can do to slow down and keep it safe so I'd be in favor of that as well I'm gonna contradict and I apologize sir please take out the rotary or roundabout whatever they're called out here I'm from Boston we trying to get rid of all the rotaries so like I'm all for getting rid of that I know I'm disagreeing and I apologize but maybe don't keep that one thank you and I'll fill out that form appreciate your time all right last chance for a dad joke haven't heard one for a long time oh no fill out a paper if you would and turn your mic on it's there you go you goaded me and I had to do it so my name is Colby Curtis I live in Silver Lake and I'm just gonna echo as well I think one of the things that's really important to me from my perspective is that we had a lot of trouble with working with Saratoga Springs to get the light in at Woodhaven and now that they're wanting something I just think it's an opportunity for us to be to collaborate a little bit better than I felt like they did with us sometimes and so you know that on top of everything else I do think that it will help safety and other things and yeah that's all I do say I talked too much for far too long here so but oh the dad joke so where do you find a dog without legs right where you left him thank you bring bring your form if you want or you're not done filling it out go ahead okay hi council mayor I'm Steve Fisher also in Silver Lake I am fully in support of the road but also I did want to bring up something that Ben was it he had mentioned and I actually thought it would be important for you guys to hear as well so I live on Silver Creek Way which is a road that Melissa I mentioned already has speeding issues but going on to Golden Eagle it is a disaster at one point at the three-way crosswalk where the state trust land is I saw two sheriffs and I talked to them and I said hey I am extremely confused there's a 25 up there there's a 30 at the bottom of the road what's the speed limit here and he said the county has it at 35 miles an hour between the schools and he says I've been trying for months to get them to put a speed limit sign here and they said that the county hasn't done anything so it is clearly a known issue with the sheriffs and they know that that road is dangerous and I fully agree that at some point that is going to become an issue and speeding in that in Silver Lake in general is an absolute problem problem and it's not just Golden Eagle it's throughout the community and living on a connector it's been a real problem so road yes enforcing speed limits yes thank you you're welcome to come up state your name for the record and then fill out a sheet sorry I'm late because I had to take my kid to a sporting event but I was listening on my phone so I could make sure I don't repeat anything my name is Scott Griffith I've already spoken with the mayor and the council but this time instead of talking about the connector road which I'm totally in support of I wanted to talk about just Golden Eagle Boulevard and Silver Creek Way again my wife has videos of kids almost getting hit she sat there and just pulled out her cell phone and I think we got four in one day of kids running out in front of cars not being able to see because the parents park alongside that road in front of the church and it's just every day it's so scary like I said I wish we still had school in session so you guys could go in and watch the traffic but yeah there's a couple things wrong with that road I believe the speed limit says 35 wherever the sign is I don't know but I've driven up and down it before and I see 35 it's way too fast like the fact that you can drive just as fast in that road as you can in front of the high school road where main traffic is flowing is like shocking to me and then the fact that there's no stop sign or speed bump or anything to stop cars because we all know if the speed limit says 35 people are going 45 and for that to happen when kids are crossing the street it's like literally if you guys sit out there it's cars streaking or slamming on their brakes to miss kids and I've submitted multiple complaints or not complaints but multiple suggestions to the city and every time the response has been the traffic study says that we don't need one yet and I probably imagine the traffic study that they're referring to was probably done whenever that road was made in like 2018 when there was a billion less houses in Eagle Mountain so the fact that we can't put up a stop sign when the growth of that area has increased by 2200 homes is concerning to me and I just wish that we could do something about that immediately like if I could go up and put a stop sign in there tomorrow a four-way stop I would love to but I'm not allowed so anyway I appreciate it and I really appreciate your guys' time and attention thank you all right thank you if you just fill out a form and return it then did I miss anybody that didn't get a chance to speak I believe that's everybody there was a lot of online comment as well that we'll get to everybody so with that at 742 we'll close the public comment period and come back to the council and just as a reminder I know that later Mr. Salazar is going to give us a presentation I just don't want to forget about the 35 mile I think it's because of the type of road that it is right so we'll address the speed limit through the study right so anybody that wants to hear that we'll come back to the council and start on this side councilmember hush I really appreciate those who have come and I've had an opportunity to go with with Ben Perez and walk through that area and I just thought how did we end up with two elementaries and now a high school all within a quarter mile of each other what was the school district thinking it's it's pretty crazy through that area I just wanted to just share a quote from Benjamin Franklin on the freedom of speech he said the freedom of speech is a principal pillar of free government when this support is taken away the constitution of a free society is dissolved and tyranny is erected on its ruins and I it's just been in my mind it seems like there's no shortage of people online canceling other people and I'm just grateful for the freedoms that we have I'm grateful that I've sat there and I've addressed the city council and come and express frustrations that I've had and it really is meaningful to have you here to hear your concerns and desires and for safety in your neighborhoods it really is meaningful and so I just wanted to express my gratitude for the freedom of speech that we have and enjoy and that's all thank you I live in Silver Lake also I'm glad to hear all of you I'm grateful that you came and said everything that you said I do want to address one thing we've gotten a lot of emails about a certain council member not agreeing to put the road through there isn't anybody up here that has said that so I just want to dispel that whoever's saying that's not true the reality of it is is that we're trying to make decisions based on all of the things that you just talked about how do we make it safe we have two elementary schools that are there we'll infuse young drivers that are inexperienced going through that situation a road that's probably too fast for the number of kids that are walking on that road I do want to tell you one thing that I think you'll like we funded speed tables and we will be putting those in the school zones where they're going to exist exactly but for sure Brookhaven and Silver Lake are on that list so just so you know that's already going to happen we're working through that right now and we feel the same way safe routes to school safety for the kids has been at the forefront of these discussions with Silver kids to walk so they weren't on Porter's Crossing so I want you to know that like the decisions that are being made with regards to this are safety first we're starting with that premise then we're moving on to traffic flow connectivity etc that has to be the way that we approach this we're going to go through this study when David comes up we're going to talk about this and we're going to make the best possible decision with the data that's available to us to address as many of the things as we can that have been brought up one thing I want you to be aware of maybe hasn't been brought to your attention there's a major road that we have been working on for quite some time called the lake mountain corridor it's going to come over the top of mountain one of the concerns is in connecting the way that you're suggesting that that might jeopardize that road from being able to be built in the way that we want it to be built so that it benefits 50,000 people on the other side of the mountain so again there are other aspects to this that we are trying to to consider all of those things to make sure we're giving safe routes passage for everybody to get in and out of the neighborhoods that they're in give better traffic flow so we're not overburdening Pony Express that we're utilizing the size of roads the ways that they've been intended to so I just want you to know this isn't flippant we're not in a hurry to make the decision because it needs to be the right decision it affects my children they go to West Lake if they decide to put our kids into the new high school we'll go to the new high school as well right now that's kind of up in the air and we don't know how that looks so I want to be clear and transparent with you whatever has been said has not come from the five of us up here we care about the outcome of this it affects me specifically people I care about not just my own kids I care about the people who live in my community that's why I ran for city council was to stop some of the bad decisions that were being made I know that when Kobe ran he did the same thing and I know that he can tell you and attest that that matters to each of the people that are up here that safety is the most important thing for us so I just wanted to make sure I said that that you heard it from me I am available by telephone to call anytime if you want to know if I said something you should know me well enough by now I will tell you what I think I am not going to try to sugarcoat anything I'll tell you exactly and I'll give you data driven decisions of why I want to make the decision that I'm making thank you for being here I appreciate you being here we're better when you are speaking out thank you for bringing up 35 mile an hour zone we're going to fix that and having inappropriate signage we're going to fix that too we can make telephone calls to fix that problem that we here at this meeting and I just wanted to go back in time a little bit let's go back 200 years ago 4th of July John Adams on that day passed away there were a couple statements he made that day I want to comment on one he said independence forever it's one of his statements now he was struggling to make any statements on that day of his death but that's Jefferson survives and the reason why that one is interesting is little did John Adams know at that time Thomas Jefferson had already passed away the night before July 3rd Thomas Jefferson was already on his death bed he was drifting in and out of consciousness when he would come back into consciousness he would ask the people around him is it the fourth of July yet he was willing his body to make it to one more day and he did he made it to one more day there so they both died on the same day 4th of July 50 years exactly after the signing of the Declaration of Independence when the founding fathers taught us that there was a providential hand that set up this country that was one more significant symbol from our providential divine source to let us know that he did and I'm grateful for that my invitation to you what are you doing as a individual and as a family to honor this 4th of July a little differently than you have done prior 4th of July ask yourself that question for me my family we've been studying the lives of the signers of the Declaration of Independence 56 of them we have other things planned as well but that's that's one thing that we have been doing I would invite you all to elevate your 4th of July celebrations this year and to remember not only the signers and those who were there that created the Declaration of Independence and signed it and put their lives at risk but also remember who the signers also acknowledged as helping set up this country thank it's always hard to follow Craig sometimes I want to be adopted into the Whiting household let me just say it that way Craig is my neighbor and friend and I value him and his perspective a great deal as I do each of my colleagues here and I invite you to come participate with us on the 4th of July enjoy the fireworks that are going to happen at Cory ride park that's you to come and participate in that listen to the music and just really get a good sense and it's an awesome fireworks show and it runs a lot longer than it does in almost anywhere else so come and enjoy that we were trying to reverse the traffic flow so the people would stay here and not be looking to leave all the time that was at least one of our objectives in funding what makes governmental interactions I think function when we when we agree to disagree and we're not disagreeable with one another so I love that there was some disagreement about whether roundabout should stay or go but it was very civil and so I want to read a quote and this is a quote from Diane Sucra and you won't know her but this comes from her book Save Your City at its heart civility is the disposition of those who understand that we live together to flourish together that the well-being of our neighbor is bound to our own and that we have a duty to one another and to the common good my commitment promise to you is that each person seated here on this dais this evening shares this vision of what we have a responsibility to that we are bound to you oh I just want to say ditto before I jump into my thoughts there's going to be a declaration of independence reading at Cory Ride on July 2nd at 7pm and it also happens to be one of the bingo squares on the official Eagle Mountain 20 50 30 bingo card so make sure you do that I'm really grateful for everyone's thoughts about our duty to serve and our duty to each other I'm also really grateful for the acknowledgment of from where our rights come but more importantly from whom our rights come and I I grew up in Minnesota and some of you guys know that Laura Ingalls Wilder is from Minnesota and I loved watching Little House on the Prairie when I was a kid and I often thought about what it must feel like 100 years from now when people look back and say who decided that this park would go here or why is this road here or why is you know any any number of decisions that we made and I am reminded of the story from Little House on the Prairie when they wanted to make a bell for their school and their church building and they didn't have the money to do it and all the kids got together and brought their little tin soldiers and everything and a guy in their community named Tinker melted all those toys together and all their thoughts and bringing it together so that we could together create the big bell the history the future of Eagle Mountain and I'm grateful for all the little pieces and all the little thoughts and contributions that every single one of you make silently every single day taking care of your neighbors mowing lawns for a senior neighbor you know bringing a meal in for somebody that's struggling and we couldn't be who we are without your contributions and much like councilmember whiting spoke about the founding fathers of our country you guys are the founders of this city and you're part of who we are and 100 years from now we will be remembered for who we are today so thank you all for all that you do and thank you for attending and sharing your thoughts and keeping us on our toes okay yeah I'll just echo that too thanks for being here I appreciate it I just wanted to add my appreciation to all the people who helped with the past couple of weeks of Pony Express days and especially behind the scenes or unseen people the Pony Express board that most of them don't get the credit or get seen some of our staff I know there's been a ton of work by our new community service board and of course Steve who spends a ton of time doing his other responsibilities plus that but then all the rest of the staff that just comes to work every day and goes home and we don't always know what they do so thank you for what you do and then our non-profits as well you know I hear from Rudy today at the Legion they're there selling waters and candy and whatever else they have and some of our other groups as well that just really make our community what they are you know he gave us a handout of some of the events I do like holy cow a big shout out and thanks to those who I say it all the time but who lift where they stand and who are out there doing the work that we don't always see and sometimes goes unnoticed but they just keep making our community a better place someone asked me this week about our size I actually did an interview a news interview and they were talking about man how do keep that small town feel in a town of 80,000 people and I said you know it's kind of amazing because there's other communities around us that have less than that you don't feel that same thing I said it's because we still wave at each other when we pass on the streets and we stop in the middle of the road and talk to each other at the store I think that goes to the character of each one of us who chooses to keep this community what it is and that's a choice we make and a hope of mine that we continue to remain that hometown that we all expect it to be so thanks for being here thanks for and come to the 4th of July all the things coming up and I going to apologize I feel like off my game today losing track of where we're at and fumbling around a little bit I thought I had this mayor thing down after only 162 days not that I'm counting but it's we're on number 10 yeah okay good so so let's go on I like that hint so we'll keep going with that we'll close the public comment period and or our council period and go to the earlier and Melissa has a motion ready prepare yourself for the longest motion ever made mayor I move that the city council approve the consent agenda with changing item 13b section 6 use of sponsorship funds striking bullets bullet points 3 through 6 beginning with purchase and maintain ending with cover administrative adding an bullet point other one-time use of funds approved by the city council updating the appendix a fee schedule to the updated fee schedule as presented in work session also item 13f directing staff to update the scope of work to include a kickoff meeting noticed for the full city council and an emphasis placed on including city council members throughout the process also item 14a referencing 2.45.040 section B limitations of the youth city council authority making updates to the numbering of items one through four and item one and I'm going to read exactly the way it should read number one the youth council must have a quorum in order to conduct business a quorum is one more than half of the youth city council voting members or at least five voting members whichever is less second now I know that was a big motion is it any questions any I fully expected the 30 second warning to come up in the middle of it okay we're going to start the vote with council member wood yes council member whiting yes council member right yes council member clark yes and that passes and I didn't state the motion in second council member clark and council member right just for the record now we are to the favorite part 15 a a traffic impact study of silver lake parkway connecting to saratoga springs and our traffic engineer david salazar is here to present some findings just as a reminder there's no action taken but we will have some time for questions and comments mayor I'm just wondering what does it feel like to be the traffic engineer in one of the busiest cities in the state that's growing at the pace that we are only one guy knows it's fun it presents challenges and I like challenges so I'm glad to be here this evening mayor council members I too live in silver lake elementary so this particular study was very interesting for myself my daughter goes to just graduated from silver lake elementary so I'm very excited to be here tonight to present hails engineering they're going to go over the study the parameters of the study the results findings and then I'll conclude with recommendations I was also going to respond to a couple comments from public comments that were also in the study but are not necessarily in the presentation but I think are worthwhile mentioning so with that I'll turn over to hails engineering so I'm Jordy Barrett with hails engineering I'm a licensed professional engineer I'm one of the project managers there and I've worked a little bit on this study and yeah Dallin will take the lead on this presentation he's very knowledgeable and more charismatic than me so hello I'm Dallin Barrowman I'm a transportation planner at hails engineering and I'll be going over some of our findings observations and recommendations related to the silver lake transportation study so this study covers these two alternative connections silver lake parkway connection shown in red in the map you can see on the screen there and then B Porter's Crossing shown in green this map outlines different roadway connections as seen in the future roadway network you can see there in the blue line lake mountain corridor which will be kind of a new major regional connection all connections here pertain to increased grid connectivity and redundancy and safety improvements as mentioned earlier Pony Express Parkway experiences a lot of congestion so having these connections improves those redundancy measures additionally with these connections there's improved safety with having access for first responders and EMS services in the case of related accidents and wildfires and such as is for our analysis we looked at three different years 2026 2035 and 2050 in each of these years we looked at the background conditions these are conditions with no connections built and in 2035 we also looked at the Civil Lake Parkway connection and in 2050 we looked at not only the Civil Lake Parkway but also Porter's Crossing and combined AB both connections scenarios one aspect of our analysis was looking at cut-through traffic in 2035 before the Lake Mountain corridor approximately half of all traffic through Silver Lake Parkway connection is estimated to be from these cut-through traffic trips and this is primarily to avoid congestion on Mountain View Corridor and Pony Express Parkway as a collector road it is to be expected servicing all those trips that are trying to make efficient travel decisions but by 2050 with Lake Mountain Corridor we expect that cut-through percentage to drop significantly this is larger because it becomes less desirable of an option with the Lake Mountain Corridor and people can cut through other means now the bulk of our analysis was looking at level of service this is an A through F scale kind of outlining different types of congestion levels for our purposes intersections with A through D level of service were deemed acceptable and then E and F conditions were failures and we recommended mitigations to go along with those here you can see the table ES1 figure or table this is in the draft report outlining the different years and their associated scenarios you can see there on the left side the eight intersections that we studied as well as AM and PM results from our modeling as you can see we have a few E and F results related to these intersections highlighted there in 2026 we've looked at Woodhaven Boulevard and Point Access Parkway and found it would operate at level service E we recommend the northbound dual right turn lanes that is currently being conceptualized by the city we just show that it meets demand in the current 2026 background looking forward to the 2035 background scenario in the evening peak period we see two intersections that reach failure conditions these are Porter's Crossing Parkway and Woodhaven Boulevard it's understood that Point Express Parkway is in excess of capacity there's about 35,000 trips per day on this roadway and so we recommend by 2035 widening to seven lanes through the study area from Mid Valley Road to Mountain View Corridor with its improvement we expect that it would improve from level service ENF to level service C in addition to level of service standards we also looked at significant queuing in the 2035 Silver Lake Parkway we encountered one such instance Silver Lake Parkway and Golden Eagle Road we expected to be having the significant queue in the southbound direction of about 375 feet it is currently a roundabout but we recommend improving it to a signalized intersection with added left turn lanes on each approach with this improvement it would improve from 375 feet to 175 feet and accept queue length not only would it improve the queue length anticipated at the intersection but also provide improved pedestrian connectivity currently the local elementary school has Golden Meadow crossing as its designated crossing but with the Golden Eagle Road and Silver Lake possible signal there's more protected and designated crossing allows for greater caution for roadway users as well an additional improvement that we saw from our general traffic observations is that Silver Lake Parkway and Woodhaven Boulevard this intersection didn't have any failures in it low service or excessive queuing but we noticed a large amount of traffic in the north and south bound directions and so in order to match this traffic pattern we recommend aligning it into a T intersection with signalization this is an optional improvement but we think it could be a good way to improve pedestrian access and kind of match the intention of the intersection along with this improvement we would need to have Campbell circle be made into emergency exit only and to rename the southern leg to Woodhaven Boulevard for that consistency at the intersection other recommendations we cover in the report is Woodhaven Boulevard there's a cluttered mailbox on the north end of the roadway which can kind of create these moments congestion and blockage this related to mail carriers and residents picking up and dropping off mail and so we recommend moving it to a side street to eliminate this kind of spontaneous blockage additionally by Silver Lake Elementary School we recommend a traffic calming measure of white striping along Golden Eagle Road and Silver Lake Parkway this would help facilitate street parking and allow for more caution during pick up and drop off periods with these designated parking areas so from our analysis we have culminated this table with new recommendations and costs you see it shows the improvement the phasing and the associated cost this ranges from the woodhaven boulevard relocation of mailboxes to the point express parkway on the higher end and this is in the report now I'll turn over to C-Saf thank you so from this study we can get into specifics when you guys have questions as well we recommend making the connection to Silver Lake continuing that road with that we recommend the signalized intersection at Golden Eagle and Silver Lake Parkway improving that intersection pulling all the safe walking routes to that intersection we would also recommend realigning Woodhaven at this intersection and having Woodhaven continue on south again to help with pedestrian access crossing and roadway conflicts and then we'd also recommend moving the mailboxes there's a there's some good city right of way on some of the adjacent side streets we could relocate that to the cost here you know the the Pony Express widening that that is something part of their study they looked at as well it would not necessarily be needed in the immediate improvements you know for the immediate improvements you know for the immediate improvements we'd be looking at the the silver lake parkway in the woodhaven and silver lake parkway intersection as well so kind of the bottom two plus the the relocation of the mailboxes with this study we collected traffic volume but one of the things we didn't do at the time was getting speed data vehicle types things of that nature so I've sent emails to you guys as well one of the things we'd like to do for the city is do a citywide speed study we have so far identified 20 locations all the elementary schools are on there as well as well as some very high populated intersections and we would like to conduct a speed study in that area so we can have more speed speed vehicle types and so on we have volumes because one of the comments was silver creek way and with the volume we have right now it did not warrant an all-around stop sign now it's the we know speed is an issue on golden eagle no one's denying that but stop signs are not traffic calming measures using a stop sign to manage speed is a dangerous practice and I do not recommend it people will not follow stop signs it can create a false insecurity for pedestrians crossing you get people speeding up and slowing down even more than if it hadn't been there now there were other ways we can mitigate speed which is why we're proposing the speed study to look at especially that intersection as well as golden eagle and other places other places throughout the city but that was not part of this study that's something we would like to propose kind of next steps but I did want to address the speed sign the stop signs excuse me in that area first so and then the last thing I was going to mention was um uh lake mountain corridor even with this connection you know this is a local road when thankfully lake mountain corridor is now a udot facility so when they come in there you know udot is kind of you know it's the state and they will adjust roads and move things as needed to accommodate that arterial because they know it's critical so making this connection would not inhibit lake mountain corridor coming through at a later date this would serve the immediate needs of the city with hopefully lake mountain corridor coming sooner so that's all i have for now but i'm happy to answer questions as well as technical questions would you mind pulling up the drawings that are on this report that shows the woodhaven pony express silver lake pony express enhancements uh that you're they're going to be coming so that the residents can at least see that the double right lane and the uh continuous right i don't remember where i saw that in 170 pages but it's in there you mean uh you mean for the um the turn lanes correct yep just so that they can see that there's some immediate things that are coming as well as some things in the future i think it's important for them to be able to see that there is some progress that's happening but it's not all 10 15 years down the road so this summer we have two projects that are funded designed and bids were due today so we're planning to do these projects this summer if you look in the map hopefully everybody can see it north is to the left bony express runs in this direction this is silver lake parkway we are widening this road on the south leg adding a designated right turn lane a separate through lane and a left lane so we no longer have the through lanes backing up the rights for the am peak when everyone's trying to get out of the city and go to work that's silver lake parkway now when we go to woodhaven here's woodhaven which is my neighborhood as well we're adding the second right hand turn so at the intersection this one's gonna be a little bit different because we have so many rights here we're adding a dedicated right turn lane a through and a right and a left and the reason why this one has a through and a right is because across the streets saratoga springs is doing a commercial development called the rider station and that's going to be going in later this fall i'm not sure when it's going to be occupied but they're working on the intersection this fall and we don't see the conflict with the through movement and the right am peak movements because those commercial businesses will be closed in the morning this way we can utilize two lanes to head right leaving the city but during the day you know you have a lot less am peak so the the throughs and the rights don't do you have a conflict like you do over on silver lake where people are going through to mount saratoga to 73 thank you one other thing i just wanted to i mean you said this but i just want to highlight that the the speed table discussion was not part of this study it's something that's going to be coming after the fact that will help with deterring speeding and even how that lower section is going to be contemplated so i just want to make sure that everybody hears us say we are doing something there are a number of things that are going to be immediate things and some of these things are going to be funding to get the funding to be able to do those things so i just want to make sure we say that yep and these speed studies are pretty quick we're hoping to get something executed started in the next month and we can hopefully come back to you guys in the next month or so as far as the approval process we're updating the transportation master plan with some section updates as well as running some modeling for the ranches and that'll kind of be our action item when we come back we will have that with your guys's feedback and everything as far as the approval next step so one question in the data that you're evaluating when you do these traffic studies so connecting to saratoga springs does it anticipate the population growth that will be occurring in that land that's currently undeveloped because i think saratoga springs i think has entitlements for a significant number of homes going in at that location say that out loud brett say that it's 56 units it's about 56 units per acre is what they're intending to build there i believe our news to you but we're aware of that we based our results off modeling from the state transportation model and we had a modeler kind of update with these connections and not in mind so if it's included in the state model and that was some of the cut through data that we saw in the initial poll was some of that initially would cut through kind of amount saratoga heading up north that was some of the movements we saw in the initial study until kind of mountain view kind of comes down and is that more the regional draw so so we're assuming that saratoga is uploading that data somewhere to a state database and you're pulling that down from the state database is that how that works state model yeah so the two mpos um really across the wasatch front mag and wfrc uh they they have their planners that collect all the socioeconomic data all the projected growth from all the city master plans they put it into this one model and so as we look at our future projections is taking all all those assumptions that the cities have documented um into account could we verify that that data is included in this study because that's really the key in my mind to understanding this if this is just using because because mag is always behind in what they're uploading there's just i mean let's be real and so i think it's really important that we have accurate data that this is based on yep absolutely and that's why the attachment was a draft report we want to get this feedback and so we can double check those numbers before we finalize that report update the transportation master plan now if you would go back to or maybe it's here but it's basically woodhaven and uh silver lake no no yeah by the school so it's golden eagle golden eagle there you go and you and i have talked about this a lot and i but i don't know if these guys were given that i can't tell because of the size and but i right here there's a little pinch point did you fix that yep we fixed that and as well as down on this end is that the part on the east end is not included in that estimate this is just the intersection that would be something else we have to look at but we did fix that this is all widened already but i did get saratoga talked into making this uh 77 i believe and it now is added to their rtp so so so this road does extend but at the connection our side is 59 or it's it's local we're 59 so i just i want to make sure that that gets corrected and that it matches and that we don't have a pinch point right there as that goes forward whether it's in the funding or whatever but as far as the drawing and i know there's some hoa there might be a little negotiation going on but that that's yeah i think i think with with the school coming online in um i've been told fall 28 for the high school you know we want to present this study update the transportation master plan and if council is in agreement with that we could hopefully proceed with design you know later this year early next year maybe get knockout construction in 27 so we're ready for high school in 28. that was kind of our perceived schedule but again we want feedback and comments from you guys as well so as far as the connection to the east you know we probably recommend doing that when saratoga makes that connection just for the efficiency we really wanted to focus on just these movements as long as it's on our rtp so they don't try to connect to a narrow obviously you and i are both in contact with them but uh make sure that their engineer is also on board with the it's not correct now yeah it's on there and you know we and i'm glad the residents are all here we want to make more connections we have more redundancy and connections that helps with safety you know less accidents and things of that nature but we want to do it smartly that's why we're doing these studies so we understand the volume the safety and then doing the speed study where we find these issues because we're not just blindly connecting neighborhoods and just i don't remember the other road but saratoga shows a connection up up brookwood that's it yep also so there's also an anticipated connection up there that i think is important to this discussion right sure yep that's also looked at so any other questions comments i'm just going to say i think one of the things i think we briefly mentioned it but i just want to make sure again with all the residents here so they're able to understand how speed limits are determined so the the type of road that it is dictates that so golden eagle is a minor arterial collector minor collector it's been changed to mine it was always a minor collector golden eagle is a minor collector because that's that's a matter collector and our minor arterial is a 122 five lane that's porter's crossing the board's crossing is a major collector the report says it says minor arterial in the report yeah it's actually that that could be a typo then because golden eagle is a minor collector it's a 77 foot right away port is crossing is a 94 foot right away as a major collector so then it absolutely is yes that was that was probably the speed limit is totally wrong on it because it does say that in there and that's what our original understanding was for golden eagle is that it was a larger collected collected collector major or even a minor arterial so we need to straighten that part out and then uh with the changes that you're proposing to woodhaven boulevard will that change its level of service and the type of road that it is from a minor collector to something bigger um the right-of-way would still say the same i mean we were looking at it i think it was still 40 feet of pavement it would just function better because after where the current roundabout is the road widens up and so it would really just help with the turning movements at the intersection we're not looking to necessarily make this a five laner over there so it'll stay at 35 miles an hour and then obviously we're going to have to deal with some of the consequences of that it'll give us straight away for traffic that already travels way too fast on that road so currently yes but part of that speech study is obviously this road and then the other intersections in the vicinity so that's something we want to look at as well is evaluating speed because we know this is a high volume road and we want to size it appropriately for speed because if it's too slow people will go way too fast if it's too fast it goes too fast so we have to find that kind of golden middle ground people will comply and not over speed so that's our goal is correct correct me if i'm wrong but there is some room to wiggle on that our standard is if the roads this width or that width this is the proposed speed limit but a council could determine that any speed limit is right and maybe 25 isn't right maybe 35 but 30 and that's that could be a decision of the council correct that that is correct that's how our code is written and in our tmp it's a range it's not like minor collector is this major is this there's a range and we can look at that from council feedback crash history speed studies and then we present that information and that's what we're going to do kind of next steps i think given what road it is i think 25 i think 30 might i think that's something we definitely want to take a look at i think there's arguments to be made for a number of the roads that they've talked about those of you that have talked about silver creek way we're aware of the problem it's one of those that we're going to evaluate particularly where it goes over the wash and they come flying down the hill both directions so all of those things are going to be contemplated on speed how we can calm some of those things so i appreciate you bringing that to our attention that we're doing a speed study throughout the city and in particular areas starting with our elementary schools middle schools and high schools i hope are part of that as well to make sure that we're starting with our pedestrian population which is mostly kids and then we start looking at some of the local roads that have extra lengths and maybe even more narrow roads which i think a lot of those that are some of the older neighborhoods would fall on that so thanks any other comments or questions for go ahead i just want to clarify the information that we're looking to secure or confirm i think is probably a better word verify isn't just population it's based on what's vested and what's moving forward in these cities so yes mag is always wrong when it comes to our population but knowing what's vested and what's planned for an area i think is more instructive for this decision process so if you could confirm that that would be great thank you i will i agree with that comment is that something that saratoga springs is willing to share and i know that they're in in a hurry to build the road it'd be really great to see what around the road they're anticipating i'm sure we do our evaluations we want that information i think that would be good to know i'm sure they can i have a great relationship with both the city engineer and the assistant city engineer so we'll get that i can i can tell you my recollection and i don't want to speak for anyone but at least the what i've been told and what i remember the best of my knowledge is and when i said that 56 units the acre it's similar to some of our older mdas where they were given 10 000 units with density transfer it's 18 000 that's the number yeah i mean it's it's a lot and some of ours i was saying are that and they transfer density this is getting towards the end of the project and they're looking at that number that's left based on the acreage that's left and the number is 56 units the acre do i believe or do they believe that they'll actually build 56 units of the acre i don't think that's the case but i i know that the the the landowner's entitled to x number of units and that's how much land's left so will it fit will it will they do that i i don't think it matches the rest of their code just my personal opinion um but my understanding is they had 5 000 acres that were part of that and they've used up 2 000.

so there's still quite a bit of land to be able to make those decisions and they are entitled to 18 000 mayor karn i'm trying to remember what the number was that he told me uh that they have already built but it's maybe a third of that uh on that uh area where they have i can't remember what it's called as a wag is what it's called i was thinking you were talking about the layer it starts with a w um all the church uh owned property is the same on there yeah no there's a there's a term that they use for it's like a master development agreement basically so yes if you have that kind of relationship that information is vital to know what we're inviting to come push back the other direction through there we need to know that information as well okay we can take a look at that and if it's off we'll just rerun things and we can always update our recommendations with a master plan and and i've heard from the mayor uh exact same thing from the city manager that yes these are the numbers but other aspects of their agreement and and their zoning can strain it down so that they're not actually going to be able to materialize that many numbers i would just say a couple of other things david that i think you that we ought to see if we can advance a little bit with this if i mean if this in fact is going to happen and it looks more probable to me that that's going to happen than not i would say this i think that especially if we're going to be making those improvements on woodhaven already we should just go ahead and get rid of the mailboxes we should take care of that in this funding cycle that eight thousand dollars from my perspective pull it out of the the contingency and just take care of that take care of whatever they're doing the work and the white line striping um by silver lake elementary golden eagle silver lake by by the elementary they're saying that that's one of the recommendations that hell's made i think we should just get that done i don't there's not a cost associated with that but it can't be much do you want to do that instead of the speed tables that we funded well i think that we ought to i think we ought to do both i think the speed tables need to happen but i also think the striping we were planning to do anyway the parking the parking the issue on that and that striping will help designate or at least yeah at least designate this is parking and this is roadway right correct so i think we ought to be doing that we can do that now and we've had success with the striping efforts and other roads too where we have like a fog line there's like an eight foot pulled in so you have designated parking and it pushes the vehicles closer together without having the center double yellows and that creates the effect of being closer people naturally slow down and that's been successful in some areas we've done in the city and then my next question is the mag funding i mean have we got pony express expansion to seven lanes on a tip yes yep it's it's it's not on the tip it's on the rtp okay um the next tip cycle is not the 28 and i'm hoping to uh apply for that in 28. okay i just wanted to make sure that we're being proactive about that it's on there we actually have woodhaven on there as well but it didn't score well correct correct we had this connection on there and it did not score well from around from a regional it was even lower than wild blossom unfortunately yeah because it connected to saratoga i tried to push this one but it is on the rtp and one of the things we're trying to do is add all these regional connections on the rtp because even if we can't get tip funding like wild blossom one of the things i was going to mention to you after our last meeting we could go over for corridor preservation funds potentially for some of these it's not a big fund but we could use some of it to start to get right away and kind of advance some of those smaller projects to medium projects three million dollars in there i mean it's something worth going after so on the tack committee make sure we do that yep yep i've been talking back about that so it's on rtp pardon me go ahead and then then i think that we uh i think that we need to be looking at where we're going to find 3.9 million dollars to make those improvements on the silver lake side if we're going to do it if we're going to do both the roundabout removal and a signal and take care of that intersection you're talking about and the adjustments to wood haven and pony express excuse me silver lake parkway where it comes down you know you're going to get me in trouble with both my mother and my sister my sister lives on silver creek way she was frustrated when we made the connection across the wash because she was sitting on a dead end street i want you guys to know that we get in trouble with everybody okay she was not happy about that my mother lives on campbell circle and if we're going to close off her access she's not going to be happy about that so um we take the heat from all sides i just want you to know that and what we're really interested in is trying to come up with the best solution and i think you've presented at least something that we should be we should be pursuing i don't see any other go ahead this is an easy one just going up to that's brookhaven that's where your kids go to school um when i walked that it was wild i think it was on a friday afternoon school was getting out and there were just kids all over the roads running yeah at brookhaven or silver lake brookhaven okay the answer is yes i was at brookhaven and there were kids just run like running down the street and you know the signage on that road i went up golden eagle there's trees in the way i don't know do we know is that like hoa property or can we trim that stuff so some of them we have trimmed recently actually because i know i drive that way did it in the morning we did trim those because yeah because the the school zone flashings were covered yeah it's like pointless they are they are trimmed yeah because that was the comment i made because i said because they grew in pretty quick they filled up fast and so we trimmed those down we even pulled one of them out that was blocking actually okay thank you yeah okay yeah that was just a discussion item it looks like we wrapped that up so thanks to our partners from hills uh appreciate you guys being here and helping us out that and david for all the work you've done um and the council for a good discussion and now that everybody's here for the budget we'll go on to uh all right mass exodus sit uh item 16a i thought they were coming for the budget um that this is a public hearing but we will first just wait for it to settle down just a little bit but kimberly's going to be coming up to talk to us about our 2025 2026 i believe we did go over this a little bit in our work session and this is the third amendment actually i think that all all the information is in there i don't unless there's any questions uh for council 16a is the the amendment to the 2025 2026 physical budget is is there any questions for staff kimberly's here prepared if there are if there's no questions ahead of time it is a public hearing so let's roll right into that uh it is 8 32 and we will open the public hearing on this item don't all storm at once is there any nothing not seeing anyone confirming with lacy we will close the public hearing at 8 33 and bring it back to council for any further discussions or a motion mayor i'll make a motion if that's okay i move that the eagle mountain city council adopt a resolution approving the third amendment to the 2025 2026 fiscal year annual budget as uh as presented in our packet second okay we have a motion by council member wright and a second by council member clark we'll start the voting with council member whiting yes council member wright yes council member clark yes council member huish no council member wood no that passes three to two the uh next item if you'd like to make a statement you're welcome to i could have paused for a minute but you don't have to i'm i'm supportive of the tax increase and i like where we're going with the public safety i think i'm just a little bit more on the conservative side with staffing um well this one was this is the last year's budget amendment oh sorry so that that's on uh two items from yeah okay i'm going i'm getting ahead motion to reconsider i'll reconsider yes is that okay to change the vote or doesn't change anything um can he you know you've already kind of declared the motion is passing so i don't see i don't see any reason to allow him to change his vote so that it's passing by a greater majority yeah it's it's fine i mean if you wanted to state for the record that that was a mistake and that you would have voted the other way i'm okay with that because it will reflect it in the motion in the minutes but i'll restate my vote to a yes they can't change it but you could state that you want the record to reflect that was like the record to reflect i support the amendment thank you is is that a uh fair statement okay yeah that i think that's the the proper way rich did you have anything okay uh next item is 17a this is also a public hearing uh pursuant code 10-3-818 this is a law that was changed a couple years ago about any compensation increase every year it has to be brought before the public for public hearing for executive officers so the physical year 2026 2027 is uh this is a public hearing so i think we're all aware of why this will come up forever about this so are there any questions nothing um it is also a public hearing so at 8 35 i'll open the public hearing on this item and ask lacy if anybody's here to no one all right seeing no one it is 8 36 and we will close the public hearing at this time i should ask was there anyone here that did not get the opportunity to speak on this item okay i still don't see you and that public hearing is closed and bring it back to the council based on 17a any questions comments that's just the public hearing only what's that it's a public hearing oh i'm on the wrong page is why i told you i was off my game today so that's a motion only or sorry a public hearing only all right now information 17b glad i got back to that paper so my instructions are correct uh this is the is also just information only it's proposed property tax impact schedule uh with that i will read the proposed property tax uh schedule this was as of i think it's important as of june 11th because the the county will give us the actual number on the 22nd oh that's it now okay we're good we're good okay i had it incorrect earlier when i was talking to the mayor in our meeting before the meeting okay kimberly's correct okay sounds good so proposed property tax impact schedule eagle mountain city will consider an increase to its property tax rate to generate an additional six million nine hundred fifty eight thousand one hundred and forty one dollars the following information is intended to provide decision makers and the public with an explanation of how city's operations would be affected in the proposed property tax increase is adopted if the property taxes adopted eagle mountain city's current property tax rate is zero point zero zero zero five three four eagle mountain city's current property tax revenue is two million eight hundred thirty nine thousand nine hundred ninety eight proposed revenue with tax change would be nine million seven hundred and ninety eight thousand one hundred and thirty nine so the new property tax revenue to eagle mountain city would be six million nine hundred and fifty eight thousand one hundred and forty one dollars estimated increase to eagle mountain city's property tax revenue is two hundred and eighteen percent estimated increase to the average primary residence if the market value was five five hundred thousand uh estimated tax increase was three hundred and twenty dollars and fifty eight cents total city tax uh four hundred sixty seven dollars and forty three cents estimated increase to average business if the market value was two million five hundred and fifty four thousand three hundred and three the estimated tax increase would be two thousand nine hundred and seventy seven dollars and sixty two cents for the total city tax of four thousand three hundred and forty one and sixty two cents the affected budget is the sheriff contract the proposed budget of nine million seven hundred and ninety eight thousand one hundred and thirty nine budget number tax change eight million two hundred and say again oh sorry i didn't okay budget no tax change eight million two hundred and ninety thousand and budget change one million five hundred and seven thousand nine hundred and thirty nine if a new property tax increase is approved the revenue will be used to fund essential public safety operations at the level approved by the city council these funds will help support core functions of the utah county sheriff's office eagle mountain division including the addition of deputies to meet the growth of the city that is part of the impact schedule and now we can move on to item 17c which is a public hearing it's a resolution to the mountain city utah adopting the physical year 2026 2027 interim budget and the proposed certified tax rate and discontinuing debit book service debt book service any questions comments on item 17c this is the one that i think you've been waiting for so no questions comments anything for kimberly that if not we will go to a public hearing at 8 40. time for a public hearing it is 8 40 and we'll open the public hearing and if you first of all let me uh ask is there anyone that has nothing anyone in the audience who would like to speak please come forward and if you'd state your name for the record and then fill out a paper uh colby curtis silver lake uh do you want a second paper for this one okay perfect i will do it for you um so first of all i i appreciate the work that you're doing i trust your judgment um for for me i i think it's probably more of a point of information is just to understand how we got to this point because from my perspective um i would have conversations with both evo and paul all the time about whether or not we needed to adjust taxes um and i was always told it wasn't it wasn't necessary and then all of a sudden we have a a significant increase now whether or not it's warranted my question is is is really how did we get here because i i don't see that from from my side because it wasn't that like i don't i don't like to raise taxes i don't like to raise fees but i'm the kind of person that if it's going to be for core services like sewer water roads then yes this this is that kind of situation um but you know if there's anyone that can maybe highlight or help me understand and and i'm not looking to throw anyone under the bus i just want to understand what has happened uh to to get us to that point anyway thank you appreciate your time i think the we haven't raised our property taxes in quite some time and our cost of public safety is substantially increasing year over year we have about 2.8 million is that what it was 2.8 million that we're collecting on property taxes and our public safety bill is 8 million right now for i think i can speak for most of us up here the the decision to propose a tax increase was based on public safety for those reasons only because that's a direct service to every resident that lives here and as more residents are added that will go up for every resident that comes into our city and it pays for somebody showing up when you're having the worst day of your life so to get to that number we had to increase the number of uh deputies but also the increase the costs go up substantially every year with cost of deputies and services etc so that's that's how we got to that point of we're going to fund public safety the tax increases for public safety um and that will be something that as residents are added to the city that will help pay for that increase in services for our public safety going forward ladies first okay um i think i can speak to this as well because i served with those city managers as well and for a really really long time eagle mountain has prided itself in being lean and being really good stewards of the taxpayer dollars of the taxpayer dollars and we still are lean and really good stewards of the taxpayer dollars the difference is that we have been basically subsidizing the chunk of our budget that should be going toward public safety with every other department that we have including water sewer you know all of the other things and we could continue to do that we could continue to subsidize our public safety with the rest of our departments but we've repeatedly heard from our residents um we need more services we we need to make sure that these things are being taken care of we have more water mains breaking we have more you know sewer issues all of those things are happening but we're not able to increase the staff and those essential services departments because again we've been subsidizing public safety on the backs of our existing employees and when you look at the number of employees that we have compared to cities that are similar in size and population and maybe even land mass we have like half of what we should have and that half means that every single one of our employees is doing the jobs of two three four people and while i wholeheartedly support the city managers that i've worked with and respect them a ton there's kind of a reckoning that takes place this year with our budget do we continue to sacrifice our existing employees so that we can increase how many deputies we have or do we as the elected officials that were elected to make this tough decision make this tough decision and course correct and get ourselves into a better place when it comes to it and as difficult as it is to look everyone in the eye and say yes we're raising your property taxes or we're proposing to raise your property taxes that's the very thing that you elected the six of us up here to do and it sucks it's the hardest thing i think we'll ever do sitting up here but it's the job it's what we were elected to do and i refuse to do it on the backs of our existing employees anymore so the way that i'm looking at it kobe just to answer your question and and i would agree with with what's been stated the sheriff's office reported to us that today we're at a one to 2200 per sheriff per person in in the city so our ratio is is very low relative to other cities and what we're trying to do is increase that so we added or are considering adding with this tax increase uh i think sit one sergeant no six is that right one sergeant six deputies thank you that's the word i'm looking for so seven in all and that cost is is about 1.25 million in salary car all of that so when you do the math you say okay we've got a 6.9 million dollar tax increase the safety is 1.25 million what are you doing with the other 5.6 million dollars and i think that's where we're trying to land in where where should that money go should it go more towards capital projects should it go to more towards uh staffing in conversations that i've had with zach hilton and others i'm like why don't we have our paver machine out every day making trails in the city and connecting and zach's response to me is i need people to run it we've got the machine we just don't have the people and so now it's trying to kind of strike that balance if we can look at it from a principle of property taxes pay for our safety so if we need more sheriffs then that's going to come from property tax and that may be incremental each year we haven't had a property tax increase in i think 15 years so it's pretty major you know it's been it's been a long time my property tax on my house for the last 10 years has been about 200 bucks per year i was floored when i actually looked at my statement you know because you look at your property tax that's alpine school districts increasing taxes fires increasing taxes what are the other districts central utah water so you see your taxes going up every year but when you look at your eagle mountain property taxes they have not really moved in over a decade and so what's happening is the staff is getting more and more and more max trying to load on more with trying to keep our wells running you know using duct tape and so i think we just kind of look at and say can we alleviate some of that pressure by bringing on more staff and up our services within the city so that's where i kind of landed i think i'm wrestling a little bit with the council on how much of that should go to staff and how much should go to building roads that are that are needed and and these different capital projects so i'm i'm really torn so i i mean i want to say something about this because for me zach just hit the nail on the head i mean he's been paying 200 in property tax to eagle mountain city for 15 years your tax rate's been flat but you paid every year is the same and has been for 15 years and yet the services that you receive have increased in cost every year year after year and so somebody's making up that difference or somewhere that difference is being covered and where that difference is being covered is in the other revenue streams that go into the general fund and i know you'll understand that colby so we're using sales tax revenues to fund essential services and that's great as long as you can continue to to to collect a pile of sales tax revenues in excess of what your needs are the reality of it is is we're not doing that and so we've found it necessary to at least evaluate this and look at it and consider this and i'm not proud of being a member of the council that is having to evaluate that and come to a decision on it but the reality of it is is is if we find it to be necessary for the long-term health and well-being of the city then i'm okay with it the other thing that we hear all the time residents will say this well there's you're adding more rooftops and more people are coming in so every one of them are contributing more tax dollars to your property tax and while that's true remember that they're contributing it at a rate that doesn't cover the cost and so is that a good decision by us to continue to do that or do we just finally look at it and say we we're going to have to find a way to make sure that the essential services are covered and they do all that we can to grow the business side of it so that we have some additional revenues in sales tax revenues met and other revenues to be able to make sure that we're taking care of park maintenance how many people have come to that dais colby and beat us up about not taking care of our open spaces and the reality is we don't have the resources to take care of it period because we're dumping it into paying for essential services so that that's part of the reason why i've been okay with working through this process and at least evaluating it one other item that you know you didn't i didn't realize until you you get to the seat and you start looking at a bunch of numbers and our average employee here in the city is is underpaid we're behind the curve and so how how much like how do you as citizens feel when you find out that the average employee of this city is underpaid and if you were in my chair and had a chance to vote to give them a little more money i mean how would you feel if you're at your employment that's not here the city you're you're employed and you're underpaid let's say you are underpaid according to your market wage i think that'd be an issue and so that's another thing we have to evaluate is i i i find it unacceptable for us to be behind the the curve on this our our employees need to be paid market wages um and what was you know there was a we were one of these budget meetings a month or two two or three months ago and we're evaluating okay how much should we propose for an increase for the for the employees and what the employees had told us was something like three percent we were the ones as a council said no you can't we're we've got to do more than that they were they were still willing to keep the belt tight but we can't let the belt be tight on the employees and we can't be behind on our public services when it comes our public safety we can't be behind on any of that and so that for me merits consideration for a tax increase if if alone just to pay the the the citizens the employees of the city market wages if just for that alone but we have other reasons unfortunately we need to do this for and i think part of the challenge is our city has doubled in size in about five years maybe six years we went from about 40 000 to about 80 000 and so that i think is part of why the numbers have had to change so drastically in so short a period of time um i i you know i'm a fiscal conservative and i and i don't like that i okay i get elected and the first thing i do when it comes of money is to to to tax increase but something i i will commit to this to the citizens we we do have income that is going to be coming in larger quantities from our commercial sector from data centers it's not here yet and but it but it's on its way it'll be interesting to see how much it actually is once it comes through the door and if that starts coming through the door to where it's giving us supplying our needs i'm definitely interested in looking at a re-evaluating this again and looking at a tax decrease to to go to go back but we can't wait for that money to come in yet we've got to act now and then evaluate it again once once that money from data center starts to come through the door then we can start to reevaluate and maybe do a tax decrease and so should my vote be yesterday but i i will commit that there will be a re-evaluation of this once once that other income from the business sector starts coming through the door and i just wanted to kind of elaborate a little bit on that there's no question that i also agree that if if the uh income was to exceed our needs that we would have to evaluate that but remember uh for instance when i read this an estimated tax increase on a uh business one from 2900 to 4300 the same thing happens to the data center if we drop taxes by ten dollars on the resident we drop by millions of dollars on the data center so we got to be careful that that that we don't overcorrect too much uh in my opinion we do we got to evaluate that make sure but it would also be just as easy to provide better and more meaningful services and keep those taxes where the data centers are are that are bolstering the the budget so it's kind of a fine line and a balance there uh to be careful of uh i believe everybody had a chance to weigh in on on their thoughts here is there any questions any comments can i miss say one last thing i think that it needs to be really clear too that this budget increase yes it's so that we can course correct and get public safety taken care of but holistically the budget does include the things that we have been planning for capital improvements it it covers the employees that were asked for and we um aren't just looking at employees we're making sure that we're taking care of the improvements and the things that our residents have asked for yeah all of the things um so it's not just about a certain number of employees it's about the things that people have asked for and the employees are going to be the ones that help us take care of those capital improvements it's it's probably important to state too and i think it was stated but just overtly state we want a well-balanced city we want a city that's fiscally diverse so that we avoid risk in the future and and making sure that our most essential service is paid for with our most stable revenue source property taxes to public safety but that allows us to then have money for things like um you know improvements to silver lake and being able to make a connection and have the resources to be able to put a road in that would have maybe torpedoed the city completely if it wasn't on our horizon right and so it gives some flexibility to add parks or add amenities or take care of open space it makes you fiscally diverse so that you can have a well-balanced city moving forward sorry one last comment on this too i mean we've got to project which where do you want the city to go and what do you want it to be the risk we have being off the i-15 corridor is we could become the armpit of utah county because we're too far distant from employers that's that's a risk we counterbalance that by providing superior service superior goods superior superior quality superior of quality of life all that takes a little bit of money and so i'm willing to i'm willing to combat that and make us something that is superior okay so i had opened the public hearing we got a comment and uh just a reminder to fill out the paperwork he's not listening to me will you remind him to keep him in line okay good and uh we did not close the public hearing was there anyone else here on that to speak on this item yeah go ahead and state your name and then for the record my name is austin bailey um i live in the new parkway fields uh development um a lot of us that are moving out there are already strapped for cash um we've spoke with our mortgage lender um a 218 percent tax increase could potentially increase our mortgage by fifteen hundred dollars a month um that would be and i say potentially um i'm not saying that's a given but i i just want um some extra concern and thought to be taken into account for those that are moving out there um because homes are cheaper in eagle mountain um that um we aren't potentially pushing people away from eagle mountain um because of the tax increase and the implications that are a possibility on mortgages and um rates of those nature okay let me address the question here just real quick so that you understand how taxes work the what uh i think zach or somebody over here mentioned a minute ago it's not 218 on your entire tax bill for instance the county and all those people you pay the water district as he mentioned you pay the county you pay the school district so if the entire bill went up 218 percent it might be 1500 what this uh estimated average resident of 500 000 the tax increase would be 320 a year for a total of 567 all year so that's that's that's 30 dollars for those yeah a month it's just like mayor i was just gonna say if you have your property tax payment it gives you a little pie chart i would encourage everybody just to go look at that i was floored i pulled it out from 10 years ago and i'm like i have not been paying the city what i should probably owe the city so yeah that is not that high it's it's 30 bucks a month man it's 24 a month 26 26 on an average home so so that's you know two three hundred dollars but but i think it's noted that a tax increase is a tax increase yeah it doesn't that's so we we have to deliver on what's going to happen in the city yeah so with that is there anyone else that came to speak on this item hi i'll make this brief charlotte ducos i'll fill out the form um one of the things that i would love to see from this um with the with the 218 increase and and i think i've talked with several of you about this before um we need a we need a mechanism where we're revisiting both our tax rates and our impact fees and anything that we levy as a city where we're we're looking at those on a regular basis um i know nobody ever likes to raise taxes but if we raise it by one percent because of a specific thing it's a lot better than 218 and i know i'm preaching to the choir on that and i just think that if we don't already have uh something in writing that asks us to do that on a yearly or a you know however whatever we want that um interval to be um i think that needs to be something that is in writing um we uh we've tried to be lean for a really really long time um but eventually being lean for a really really long time leads to a 218 percent increase because you can't cover your expenses and so while i um i'm not big on raising taxes all the time either um i do recognize that taxes is how we pay for services and um and so sometimes they have to go up because our costs are going up and um if we have a regular interval where we look at that then we're recognizing that those costs are regularly going up and that we are regularly growing and so that would be my encouragement is that we have that mechanism put in place if it isn't already in place and that we do um that reckoning more often and um at a regular interval i think that's a a great point to have a written policy i believe we're we're looking at that right now with this tax increase have we evaluated i think it puts us in the in the lower third still yeah so after the increase across cities i know it's in the lower half we're we're second to the lowest the only city in utah county lower than us is cedar fort and that's another just fun point that 218 of a dollar it's only 218 dollars right because we're so low to begin with where a city one of our neighboring cities raises 11 and it's more than our 26 dollars and i think that's why that number seems scary but it's uh it's because the the multiplier is so small i think is the the point there but still we'll be in the bottom half yeah we'll be even after i believe we'll be very close to average yeah well and that's before all them jump back up because every city but two raised that's that's exactly it most of the cities um also interest north of provo and i actually think most of the cities in utah county are raising this year so even though we project it to be the middle it's probably going to be in the one third i think i think charlotte brought up a great point uh when we first had to start talking about this at our retreat i even asked if we could like put a sunset clause in our tax but unfortunately it's not allowed i would be willing to sign a pledge or something else that we revisited every year whatever mechanism it takes for us to make it our culture that we're going to review it consistently i'm willing to do it because i think it's important we do have financial policies in our budget and the whole budget process is of course an evaluation by our elected leaders as far as our budgetary needs for the new year we can make it a very overt if it's not already i'm looking at kimberly now if it's not overtly and an item that is re-evaluated each year of course we're going through all of our impact fees right now on a regular basis we want to do it more rapidly than the five-year minimum because for such a high growing city that we know we need to to move more quickly on those um so i i think absolutely we could do all the the council has just said right there and be fiscally responsible all the way through at the same time so still open in the public hearing and there's been a lot of comment uh so okay he wants to come speak yep go ahead we're still in the public hearing and maybe we'll hold our comments for a minute i think that's what's dragging us out let everybody speak so i close this public here i'll keep the dad jokes out this time um justin cool evans ranch neighborhood and in eagle mountain i just i apologize if this is not the the proper venue so please keep me honest here uh like was stated i understand that taxation needs to occur right we can't make something from nothing i work in payroll i understand i i would absolutely be pissed off if i was underpaid drastically right and on top of that if we're under personed right then we're also overworking so i'm underpaid i'm overworking i honestly ask how are we keeping our employees honestly 100 right and and so this absolutely has happened what i'm curious about is is do we have anything from a transparency standpoint like are the the budgeting and things of that nature is that you know here's what we spent out here or here's what we took in is that stuff readily available okay i just wanted to understand that because that to me makes it a lot easier for me to say yes absolutely let's do that and then as voters if we look at and go whoa whoa whoa whoa somebody is smoking something this doesn't make any sense right then we can come back time later and go okay to your point also like can we reassess and taper down if we need to as well right so i just wanted to then yes i'm i'm all for when it makes sense i just wanted to understand if there was some transparency there so so appreciate that i'll also fill out my form on that as well so okay is there anyone else yeah fill out another paper thank you are we going to run out of paper back there okay good stephanie's on top of is there anyone else that came to speak on this topic seeing no one i'm going to close the public hearing so that we can have the comments all uh we'll close the public hearing at 906 and just on that one the entire budget is online at eagle mountain.gov uh at our at our website so as far as the transparency pull it up on the website you'll see everything that we spend kimberly keeps that up pretty good and we have one of the best financial people around so if there are no other comments or questions from i know brett's itching to make a motion or council member right i want to move us forward mayor if you'll allow me go ahead i move the eagle mountain city council adopt a resolution adopting the fiscal year 2026 2027 interim budget and the proposed certified tax rate and discontinuing the debt book services second okay uh motion by councilman wright and second by council member whiting and uh is there any questions on the motion can i just have a clarification do the tax increase and the budget have to be tied into the same boat or can they be separate well what this does is it's an interim budget because it's based on the our budget won't pass if we don't uh increase right it's tight yeah the final budget comes in august as well as the public hearing so any other questions on that portion not you good no questions okay then we're going to start the vote right here with uh councilmember wright yes councilmember clark yes councilmember huish no councilmember wood yes councilmember whiting yes okay that passes 4-1 and i suppose the same comment from before right the employees and whatever you talked about before okay we will move on to item 18a also public hearing of uh amending the eagle mountain municipal code 16.15 of the concept plans as presented earlier by um brandon but we'll turn time over to him for a little a little explanation and then move forward sounds good um thank you mayor council um as as i noted earlier this is really a a proposal to to improve our development process especially the front end of it we're wanting to make sure that we're looking for utility and road connections early on in the process um i know dave david salzar talked about this i'm passionate about it too we want to improve uh transportation and traffic connectivity in the city and so i think that's going to help if we're looking out for for uh road connectivity and utility connectivity early on i think we're gonna going to uh have less problems as the development process as an application for development uh moves on and i think you're gonna gonna see a better built environment in the city so essentially what this is is it requires uh preliminary subdivision plats master plans and rezones to have a concept plan and um and when when that application's submitted they're going to have this is basically saying they're going to have to submit there's all most of these documents are already required we're adding one but big thing here is i think we're adding some clarity to what's going to be required we beefed up what's uh the kind of the descriptions for traffic circulation plan and utility infrastructure plan and then added the concept street layout i think it's critical that we you know for instance number three there i think we really need to be looking at street connect uh look looking at our master plan looking at a development and seeing where the road connections need to be made so that's that's what what will uh help here and again as i noted earlier we had a comment from a council member that kind of stuck in my ear a little bit about trying to limit the number of concept plans that are coming to this body and so what i what i've what i've what i've proposed here is to have uh generally have concept plans go through the drc and and planning commission and then just kind of on a case-by-case basis if we need to steer steer concept plan to this body so um but that's uh kind of the proposal in a nutshell i think it's uh we we believe it's uh going to be a really helpful uh proposal uh amendment we've been talking with uh public works brad trying to improve our process and this is just kind of a there there will be an additional amendment that's going to add something to this um we've got another amendment uh that's going to deal with water rights and our water rights process that will kind of relate to this but um so there stay tuned for a little bit more but this is our first uh kind of effort to just at least get the concept plan process working a little better i have a question um i remember when we talked about doing the concept plans when that was passed by the city council i think i was on the planning commission when this happened and the purpose of that at the time was because there were so many plans that were coming that were basically a surprise and city council was not in favor of it and so they were being rejected because there was no input beforehand i worry about now taking this mechanism and pairing that down to the very same problem that existed before that we returned back to the same problem that began here i think jared and melissa were on the council at that time um i just love to hear everybody's feedback on that when that was this concept plan uh code was created it was for that purpose so that they weren't spending all of the money coming in and getting rejected i think one of the other things along with that council member wood is um sometimes we're reluctant as a council to create wide sweeping code that up would apply to everyone when we're only willing to consider it in very small specific circumstances through maybe a development agreement and the concept plan was the one way for them to be able to bring it in and see if the building height or the whatever you name it that they wanted us to consider would be considered so i i agree with that that's not what i was saying i was saying that if we take that away we're going to be surprised again i agree with you that's i think i'm just trying to affirm what you're saying um but i also grow weary with some of the multiple stops made on the concept plan train and how exhausting it is because it's one thing to come and get our feedback it's another thing to use it to wear us down and i think that's where the disconnect is i know it doesn't so i'm going to tell you it doesn't wear me down i think it's better to have the conversation before money's expended um perhaps that doesn't need to go through every single step perhaps because it isn't an action that's being taken maybe it doesn't have to go through every one of the steps that a normal application does and it brings it to us so we can give feedback and then send it through the route maybe that helps i don't know who has the issue with it if it's a staff issue or if it's an applicant issue i'm going to tell you i think the the benefit of the concept plan coming to us is we just had an example of that not too long ago where the concept plan wasn't even close and they wanted to proceed with this project and there were other considerations that we wanted to see on there and we said come back and show us everything and that took some time for them to finally agree to that but they eventually did where we could get to a yes or it would have been a no right off the bat and now they're waiting a year so to me i think there's some benefit to doing that especially at the stage that we're in now as a city where there's a lot of infill and a lot of this stuff is commercial that's coming before us now um obviously you're going to have projects that are still coming with housing there's just not a ton of that that's coming to us most of the stuff is commercial and i think there's a benefit to seeing some of those things that's that's my opinion i don't want to speak for everybody but i i like the concept plan coming to us because i think that gives us the ability to tell them whether or not their project has any success is there a limit to how many times it can come because parkway fields it was eight and eight times of not hearing no you can't have four thousand units there is excessive lower hayden valleys come to you so and and because it's a concept plan there's no denial that like is like this is serious pay attention to what we're saying so i think that is the weary part like i 100 agree with you that i want them to come so that we can work together and create something amazing together and help get them on the right track but when it's eight times it feels egregious what i'm hearing from the two of you is perhaps just a difference of opinion that that that this may not be the exact mechanism or perhaps is not the way that we should proceed forward so my question is should we just consider tabling that and giving it some more work perhaps the two of you could meet with brandon and help give some guidance that would adjust that i'm i'm open to just keeping it to the council i have no problem doing that all i was trying to do is like basically i think that's my question brandon to the council is do you want to pursue elevating this and adjusting it to to eliminate some of the concerns that you have with the current situation i what's your feeling on it i think let's hear from the other three what are your opinions melissa and i have both given our opinions i personally think there's some benefit in making it better than what it is because i share some of her concerns i think there should be a limit i think the process should be pretty simple and straightforward and it shouldn't be lengthy and it shouldn't be expensive it should be simple and it should get to a place where a developer has a feeling that okay there's a probability that this is going to work or there just isn't and it looks like brad's going to come up and and give us some information i see him coming to give you some help brandon so come on up brad i just think as a public works division we support this improving this process and i think it's something that needs to be done and i'm supportive of what brandon's doing here because i think we have to be able to measure these developments against what our master plans are and we need to do that in the initial reviews and we need to make sure that we can supply them with the utilities and everything that we need to service them ongoing and that should all be done before they go spend money and get into the process and so i just want to stand up here and support i know that you're talking about whether it comes back to this body or not but from our perspective in collaboration and trying to get a better product and a better outcome we support this because we feel we feel like it will make the process better and it will help with the developers and i think i think you make a really good point because i'm thinking of this as concept plan only but i really love the elements of introducing the water documentation early on and the utility review all of those things so my question really is can we improve upon this i mean it sounds like there's enough concerns with at least with these two that you you don't feel like it's ready and maybe i don't want to put words i haven't well we're ready honestly to we we need to get using these extra documents so we don't have additional applications come through without this material that's why i'm hesitant to have a delay i i just as soon have you prove everything with the idea of just letting it come back to the council and if we need to address that issue we can come back and address i'm not looking to delay you maybe you misunderstood where i'm going i'm saying the making sure that the public work stuff comes up front yeah would have been super beneficial for a pretty large development not too long ago where there's a lot of challenges and i i'm totally in favor of that what i'm saying is to eliminate the city council's input into that i'm not in favor of the other thing too i'll point out is what what i've tried to do like a like i said earlier is like gatekeep it a little bit more i'm not saying we're not going to bring concept plans to anymore we're just going to be a little more judicious so it's the code saying it'll stop at the at the planning commission but that doesn't preclude us from putting something on your agenda can you can you can you just add one line in there that simply says that the city council can require that it come before them yeah absolutely let's put that in there then then then it's up to the council to decide as they see stuff going through planning they would probably have to at least let us know that there is something to evaluate though yeah but it gives us the ability to pull it forward i think what you'd want to do is maybe put a notification requirement our city code of course already allows the city council to make become the land use authority on anything unless it's already unless it's prohibited by state law so this would be something that you could become the land use authority on if you wanted to and the only thing you need to do is know about it so a noticing requirement to city council that a concept plan is going for planning commission is there any reason we couldn't do that in the that last section on our agenda that has upcoming concept plans for us to review so it's in one place yeah we can put them on there for you i and i'm good i don't i and i don't want to stand in the way of it either i think a lot of the repeat offenders that keep coming back with concept plans would have been narrowed down or screened i'm not going to use the word gatekeep if we had public works weigh in on it because that would have settled a lot of the concerns that council had from the beginning and that's maybe that's where i want to jump in a little bit i i want to help the council understand that there's other aspects of this that will mature in time too last week we had a really good meeting going through water rights and when water rights will be dedicated we're moving that up to concept and moving the requirements at final up to preliminary so that we can have a better handle on that i think that the real moral of the story is um one we want to be able to um look at the feasibility of things before they even come to you because if they're not feasible we don't want to waste their time your time or not as as a staff we can give a lot of information to them before they start investing dollars and and the second aspect of that is we have a typical tendency to want to have perfect code and perfect processes and whatnot and perfect plans and everything and so a lot of times we're not approving things or not moving things forward in an incremental or iterative or stepped way that allows us to start making incremental improvements knowing the other that we're going to continue to make these improvements coming forward because sometimes we miss out on opportunities to fix processes because they never get over the finish line you know what i mean so i just really want to stress that too and i'll say too um kind of with with brad coming up what what uh also is going on behind the scenes brad and i are working together with our two departments trying to fix things that aren't necessarily related to the code but more like uh pro administrative processes um like with with that open gov tool that you've been gracious to to provide that for us we're working to improve our development process to just make make the city function better and to make the development process function better so can i jump in for about 45 seconds promise all right this is a public hearing and we've made a lot of comment and i'm going to knock that out so uh at 9 23 we'll open the public hearing and ask if there's anyone here is there anyone here that wanted to comment on this code ah i thought we were going to get another dad joke that was close um seeing no one we'll close the public hearing at 9 23 and bring them back to the council okay so now that we got that out of the way we can see if there's something we can if we can get somewhere or i think that that melissa made a good suggestion there needs to be a limit to the number of concept plans they can bring back to us so you probably know better than anybody brandon what that should be so suggest something to us and i think as far as i'm concerned everything else is great if we can put it on our upcoming agenda items or something in that communication items section that allows us to see the cut the and maybe some of those will just say don't bother bringing that to us because you put in there they don't meet the these criteria in here they want to come forward but they don't meet up and say yeah it's not ready to come to us then right i like that i want to empower you guys to say hey this doesn't even remotely meet code so we're going to let you work on it some more like i just i i think it's good to let you guys say this isn't going to council because it's definitely not ready so one question i have on that though sometimes a developer is going to be talking to you about something that's not necessarily public yet so if you're throwing that on our agenda saying hey i met with the developer about this didn't meet code now suddenly it's public so i i don't know if the our public agenda is the right spot for you to be able to give us a lot of detail i i would agree and it may be easier i mean i know ben sends us an amazing email once a week that it's got to take you like eight hours to write when i read through that i'm like this is an amazing email super informative every single week that it's i mean i i really appreciate that uh and maybe maybe there's just a once a week email as well that says hey here's some of the things we're working that are happening that's happening in the with these plans but really a notification just needs to come to council when it's ready to go to planning because if it's not ready to go to planning we're not going to see it from my perspective i i mean that's just something something that something the planning department or the recorder could do if it's going to planning and she's sending out a public notice why not send out just a council notice that these concept plans are coming to to the planning commission can we do that by text i don't need another email to try to find i'd rather it come by text if that's possible i've got way too many emails as it is two other people got to make a decision with which i'm okay with it the way that it is just adding the requirement for a notification to council about the concept plan that's going to the planning commission okay okay i'll make another motion if you'll let me mayor you ready okay i uh i moved that eagle mountain city council adopt an ordinance amending the eagle mountain municipal code 16.15 concept plans and adding a condition that the accounts will be notified anytime a concept plan is going to be is coming to planning commission for a public hearing is there one other thing we wanted to add by text right i'm going to let you guys figure that i'm not going to be that specific um and that's i'll second your motion then sorry i think uh i got council member right making the motion i think council member wood with the second and we'll start the vote with councilman clark yes council member huish yes councilman wood yes councilman whitey yes councilman wright yes okay that motion passes good work um there's john there he is legislative priority lists looks like we have some updates good evening mayor council i have a few questions and a few updates um you guys had asked for a seasonal sign ordinance that is going to go to the planning commission next week they had to do the political sign at the same time so it was a little slower than we'd want it but trying to match state law and do both at the same time the other question i have you talked about and standardized poured concrete fence for eagle mountain um there's two companies that actually make those in utah they pour them here they manufacture them here um the question is do you want something off the shelf do you want something designed especially for eagle mountain um that is my question to you would do you before i start getting prices custom are we talking about them pouring them for us do we own the molds if we go with something custom we'd we'd have to own the molds i would say we want to hold them own the molds so that if we decide this contractor is not the one we want to use that we can take the mold to move them to another contractor for consistency right so we would but there's only two companies that actually pour them in utah in our area so there's another kind of company that's larger um that does the does the fences but they don't pour them in utah when we when i say custom are we talking about we have some design control over what's stamped on the concrete the color what we want that those panels to look like right because we can get something off the shelf what what does off the shelf look like is it just like river rock some red some of it's kind of boring some of it's kind of hideous yeah i'm going to go custom have you ever been up to harriman when they do these panels you'll go buy one and it's got a tractor and like a wheat field or cornfield and a couple more down it's a different scene the other ones are kind of standard but every they intermix these ones with uh reliefs on them into the system so it's not just a big boring front wall so does that meet the the art desire that we had to have that type of thing throughout the city to have something that's dealt with uh you know like you see some of the overpasses that have the the 2002 olympic stamp on it or well i mean that's that's that's trademarked right you'd have to be careful with that but right well i'm not talking about that i'm just saying as an example that's what we're talking about you certainly could do something custom like that i guess my question is i wouldn't want to deviate too far and i wouldn't want to make it too hard and i wouldn't want to make it extra expensive that that would be my concern so i think it should be fairly simple if you're going to do something that's custom harriman only has like four custom panels and everything else is uh kind of a standard panel and they just put them in every so often we're basically just buying the molds once and then we're paying for them to pour them right right they would they would produce them as their contractors would need them yeah but i mean for an example if you have a custom mold and it's harder to pour and it takes more time and more labor are you raising the cost of that those are the things that i would want to examine a little bit and be aware of we definitely don't want to do complicated i'm thinking like a very simple something on what that is and whether there's four or two is immaterial just something that creates some especially on the ones that are really long to have something to break it up but maybe you could bring some things first to take a look at yeah i just wanted before i started making these phone calls i mean i did look at the standardized stuff you could have a custom panel and a standardized one so you can keep the cost kind of low my in my mind when we talked about this probably a month or two ago it was really just the logo we just do this without the dates and do the just the eagle and every fourth or fifth panel has this logo maybe one has the just the e uh you do put brett right where it says 30th anniversary yeah i think i'm a no but uh you know i mean there's some easy things that would stay with the logo and then and if you want to do anything beyond that whatever but but that's where i would stay so any uh further discussion on that one you have some good direction yeah i'll hopefully i'll have something by the next time i come back i'll come back with something all right anything else on the list anything need to be talked about added brought up okay thanks sean thanks uh next item is uh council mayor comments and then uh liaison reports so i know you've been yeah go ahead had a great chat with uh jim smith at the uh pony express rodeo and just asked him to kind of give me a grade of how we did as a city and helping them to pull off the rodeo and it was very complimentary said our staff was top notch in their help uh so i'm really appreciative of the help in in helping them to to put together one of our our biggest events um they're a great group of people i've worked with them for two and a half years now three almost three years um and they're hard-working people they're dedicating their time and and they are true volunteers uh that are giving up their time just like uh people on boards and commissions and so forth and we appreciate everything that they did for us if you have a chance to see that they're all with exception of one i think they're all residents of eagle mountain right i think there's only one that isn't all the rest of them are residents so if you see see them uh the community thank them for the great sacrifice that they make to put that uh event on for us yeah i know the youth council they talk about the dance already so yes the dance was i thought well attended uh it was fun i joined for a little bit i'm not a dancer uh but i joined for a little bit nonetheless uh so that part was fun uh i actually wanted to bring up and maybe this was i should have brought this up like a few minutes ago but uh ben had forwarded us an email all right with a suggestion about creating a an advanced air mobility overlay zone is that can we talk about that momentarily because you want to expand on that for us ben because i think that's something we need to consider sure and this would be great with the legislative priorities and whatnot so the state of utah has an advanced air mobility um advisory committee that they put together and abby was was kind enough to get me included on that they're putting together a um a guidance document that is going to help cities help to understand what is in the city's authority what's in the faa's authority what's in between and udot aeronautics authority how the cities can help govern this through land use and through zoning and whatnot and it would be great to have some sort of an overlay zone for us to maybe be that uh first city out there to work with the uh with udot and with this advisory committee to be able to craft an uh an overlay zone that we could use in our community as we move forward and the nice way nice thing about doing it as an overlay is it doesn't actually apply to anyone's property until such time as we determine you determine applicants come in hey where this word does this make sense but give some guidance to those who might want to come into our community of some of your expectations right up front so um i i think this is going to be something that's going to take some time we'll get the guidance document out to you hopefully we can get it out to you earlier before other cities uh even get it and uh and see where this goes for our community so is this something we need that be acting on right now or is there something you're working on to bring to us i i think adding it as as if this is something that the council is interested in in taking a leadership role in throughout the state then i will uh actively engage in getting um this material out to all of you as well as to our um our community development department to start drafting and putting together some code they they were reluctant at one point they thought about putting together a draft ordinance but they wanted to take a step back and they said you know every city is unique every city wants to do it their own way here's some guidance some bullet points that we recommend rather than overly putting an ordinance so it is going to be up to the cities to to determine what makes sense for us in our community as far as what an ordinance looks like for eagle mountain city i just want to clarify my understanding so air mobility what we're talking about is creating ports from one city to another i can jump on an air taxi over utah lake go to linden catch it tracks to salt lake that that's kind of what we're considering with this overlay zone like where could that happen exactly so advanced air mobility is taking place in new york and la and in different places throughout the world dubai and whatnot in the state of utah they want to have an active part of our transportation network when it comes to the olympics when the olympics comes and so there's quite a bit of time between now and then but in order to make that happen we really need to have many many different locations you don't just have one report you have where you're going to and of course salt lake airport provo airport ogden are very logical locations park city and other skiing destinations make sense as far as that's concerned but eagle mountain really has an opportunity from economic development standpoint we of course have a lot of people coming into our community large investors and whatnot looking at infrastructure and and putting investment into our community so there's that aspect of it there's there's delivery of of goods and materials and and and all that type of thing but more importantly for a city like eagle mountain we really can be a backbone we have great airspace we have the land to do it we could be a great backbone to this type of industry not only through manufacturing but being a hub yeah that and that's more what i'm thinking is just warehousing we have a lot of land to store stuff and to ship it out be a distribution center that might be kind of cool but it's awesome to think about a distribution center that doesn't use the roads correct yeah scarcity breeds creativity we do not have roads but we have air so last thursday last thursday last thursday i was at wasatch high school which is right next to hebrew valley airport and i sat for four hours and i counted the number of times planes flew over the same planes new planes i think my son got up to 52. um one of the things i think as we keep talking about this that we need to evaluate what the actual impact of sound is going to be in our valley um i think all of these ideas sound great and economic possibilities are awesome and being at the forefront of technology is awesome but also there's an impact of these kinds of things that the quiet valley that we live in when we start bringing those types of things in with frequency especially if you're looking at having them deliver with frequency that sound is going to be reverberating throughout your valley and i think as we're talking about this we're going to have this discussion about what that impact actually is and is that something that we want to invite into the valley we've been very strict about what's in the air what's on in the ground what goes into the water uh light but i think sound as we're going down this this road is that something that we want to invite into the valley and does that change the character of what we are i think that needs to be something we talk about you are dead on absolutely right and that's one of the criteria that that the state is recommending every community look at but what's really exciting about this technology is that the sound impact is one 140th the sound of a helicopter because they're electric motors and whatnot and i guess i would maybe make it the equivalent to the sound of an electric vehicle versus the sound of an automobile today on the roads they actually have to add sound to the electric vehicles so you can hear them coming and uh and and that's that's uh really going to change the dynamic of how all of this takes place but there's no doubt there will be an impact and some people and there will be privacy law issues there's all sorts of things that need to be considered that you as a council should be in the forefront of deciding so something that i've been sitting back thinking this is a great conversation and stuff that we've been working on especially manufacturing is it direction for ben to continue doing what he's doing or is it something that you motion to put on the list so that you get more frequent updates that's i'm just wondering what what the expectation is from here i would like us to get decibel information about the noise that vertiports and this type of traffic would create yeah just the impacts but i don't know that we need to add it to the list because we're already doing a study yeah and it's part it's part of it it's the air mobility it's the so yeah i think after the study's done maybe we look at an overlay zone if it makes sense if there's places within the city so maybe not just there yet okay in the meantime i'll just keep getting you information so with that we were kind of on uh that took us back to the legislative list but we were on the uh liaison stuff and i stayed at the dance until the lights went out i think i turned the lights out if i remember right but uh go ahead just uh report on the most exciting committee of all oh the one that presented tonight the audit committee oh shoot i fell asleep in that media oh did i i don't know now everyone's gonna go to sleep we had a great audit committee meeting today uh where we talked about uh risk assessment i just wanted to report back some really positive things this was my first audit committee meeting and i want to make sure that our finances are in good shape that we're protecting ourselves from a risk perspective and i feel like kim and aaron are doing a very good job we have a very reasonable audit cost and a good relationship with our auditor it's important because these kinds of things going unchecked can create real risks anytime you have a distribution unintended going out that's something that we that's why you have an audit to make sure you have controls in place our score and i think this was somewhere in the agenda or maybe it was emailed to me from kim we we have a very very low risk um we we scored i think it was 355 out of 375 we're missing a couple points um but i think those are things that uh we're working on one of them is having our own internal audit a lot of larger cities will have the staff to perform an internal audit i don't know that we have the size of staff or that it really warrants if you vote for our budget we would do you want to talk about that you want to go there we can go there everybody thought and i said all right it's getting late we're missing a few points there and then we're missing a few points on uh the just designations there are five or six different designations related to government accounting that um i i think we have a staff employee that's working on getting that accreditation so hopefully within the next year we'll have that sweet pretty good stuff and and i know i can't remember was it this month i went to the seniors for you but there's didn't they need something no they came yeah you want me to get yeah it was august they needed us or something yeah because that needs to be on our radar i don't remember the date but it's in august i'll i'll have to remind you because i forgot already i'm a senior you remember that man okay um but the seniors did come to the foundry for a tour and they really enjoyed that we we we worked them over and they they they loved it they were actually there while we did a pour uh and anyway that's the funnest part of coming on any foundry tour and drc's doing fine yeah ulct we ben and i had a meeting with them not long ago and there's another one that's up and coming i've actually volunteered to serve on a couple of committees that they that they're looking for volunteers water is one of them and then thank you mayor for the opportunity to to be gone last council meeting with many members of our staff to go attend a water conference in heber i felt like that was really productive and i think you're starting to see some of the first results of that that are coming through that one of them came through on our agenda today and i just want to express the gratitude for the the staff that was there for the collaboration that happened and i just it was a really impactful for me at least opportunity to really sit down and strategize with the with those department heads and those that came and i think you're going to see the you're going to see the results of that that will start to come to council periodically so anyway things going great on all those committees i'm going to say thanks for being available and being willing to help pick up some of that slack you've done a good job and i don't know if i'm supposed to say this but most of these people probably don't know you couldn't get internet at the hotel so you drove in your truck and what how many hours did you sit in the front seat yeah well as long as you guys were here till midnight i was sitting in the park and looking like that waiting for the sheriff to come by and haul me away um yeah anyway i uh i thought boy i i hope they're nice to me when they come and check on me dedicated to sit in your truck and listen to us go on all night did you have some yeah um planning commission has their new alternate uh laura jensen on and she's doing a great job with the rest of the planning commission and they've been doing kind of a cool thing where there's different presentations during their like work session time um and they're covering different topics and it's really neat because they're using some of their uh talent and knowledge that's even on the planning commission to help present those things um i also was just thinking about the fact that we had a fire last not this last saturday but the saturday before and how crazy fast all of that moved and um no one's here from the fire department but i think some pretty cool miracles happened that day and i'm really grateful for the amazing people that we have serving us and how quickly that was pulled together and it's crazy to look at the photos of the new high school that's being built and how it just like stopped and how it just stopped before it took off across the field to all of our homes and silver lake and kiowa valley and stuff like that so thank you to those that worked on that for us um and that's it okay if there's nothing else we do have an rda meeting and we'll need about 35 seconds to switch the audio for stephanie but uh any other go ahead motion to adjourn second uh yeah and that's the second time i'm trying it's all right it's all right motion by council member wood and second by council member huish we'll do a voice of vote uh all in favor aye aye any opposed that passes unanimously and we will adjourn at 9 48.

give it a few minutes for the recording and start our rda meeting they can have all the seconds because i made Thank you. Thank you.