Transcript — Eagle Mountain Community Services Board, 22 July 2026
Produced by speech recognition from the meeting recording, so it mis-hears names and technical terms. It is a searchable aid to the recording, not a record of equal standing to the approved minutes.
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# Community Services Board — Eagle Mountain, UT # Meeting of July 22, 2026 · called to order 6:03 PM · adjourned 8:28 PM # Transcribed from "07.22.2026 CSB Meeting.WMA" (2h25m) via AssemblyAI with # speaker diarization. Speaker names were assigned from content evidence in the # recording (self-identification, direct address, motions named from the chair). # # Present: Jessie Southworth (chair) · Melissa Clark (City Council) · # Zac Huish (City Council) · Mare Burningham · Cherie Curtis · Jay Johnson · # Charlotte Ducos (arrived ~6:45 PM) · Steve Mumford · Jason Hall (Recreation) · # Don Hamm (Events) · Soraya Farmer (Communications) # Excused: Steve Conger, Liz # # Caveat: diarization found 9 distinct voices for 11 people present. Jay Johnson # and Jason Hall speak rarely and some of their turns are folded into the labels # for Zac Huish and Don Hamm respectively.
Long turns are reliably attributed; # one- and two-word interjections are the least reliable.
Melissa Clark: All right, welcome everyone.
Jessie Southworth: I will officially call this meeting to order at 6:03 PM. Um, can we have everyone go around and state your name, please?
Melissa Clark: Melissa Clark, City Council.
Zac Huish: Zac Huish, City Council.
Soraya Farmer: Soraya Farmer, Communications.
Jay Johnson: Jay Johnson.
Steve Mumford: Steve Mumford.
Mare Burningham: Mare Burningham.
Cherie Curtis: Cherie Curtis.
Don Hamm: Sorry, Don Hamm, Events.
Jason Hall: Jason Hall. Recreation.
Jessie Southworth: Jessie Southworth. Awesome. Okay, thank you. Um, the first thing we have are the approval— is the minutes from the previous 2 meetings. Actually, we had the meeting last month and then our special session, our special meeting for the recreation approvals. Um, were you guys able to look those over? Yeah. Did anyone have— there is one correction I know in one of them. It lists Mare as Mayor.
Mare Burningham: That's what happens all the time. It's one syllable.
Cherie Curtis: Yes.
Jessie Southworth: So, we have that correction. Were there any other corrections or anything that needed to be made?
Soraya Farmer: Any issues?
Jessie Southworth: Okay, well, now you guys have to make a motion instead of Charlotte.
Soraya Farmer: Go ahead.
Cherie Curtis: I motion approval of previous 2 meetings' minutes.
Mare Burningham: I'll second.
Jessie Southworth: All right, Cherie made the motion and Mare seconded that. Did we have any questions about that? All in favor?
Mare Burningham: Aye.
Jessie Southworth: And that passes. Okay, this has a recap from the previous meeting. I don't think there's anything we really need to talk about from the last meeting that took forever, and we'll talk about most of them today, so we'll go ahead and move on to Sorry, I'm not prepared, you guys. I'm not doing great today.
Steve Mumford: Maybe the only update would be the sponsorships, but I think we updated everyone. We had that special meeting. Can I mention one thing with that?
Melissa Clark: Absolutely.
Steve Mumford: Jason's been working with our vendor for making the Jerseys, and we had a number on the front, a small number on the front and a big number on the back. I'll just pull it up real quick, this image. And the question was, do we need the number on the front? A lot of cities don't have it, I guess. That's right. Can you turn this on and put a number 1, input number 1?
Soraya Farmer: Once it turns on.
Steve Mumford: If it turns on.
Melissa Clark: Looks like it might work.
Steve Mumford: A lot of the soccer clubs don't have a number because they have the name of the soccer club on the front, you know, like a logo or something. But Jason was looking, a lot of cities don't have the number either. We would just have Anytime Fitness on the front with our logo since we don't have like another team name. So I kind of liked the idea of having the number there because then it's not quite so much just the sponsor, but it does save us— if we don't do the numbers, it saves about $1,000 total.
Melissa Clark: That's pretty crazy.
Charlotte Ducos: Right?
Soraya Farmer: That's a lot of money.
Cherie Curtis: What if we just made our logo bigger? Remove the number and made our logo Bigger.
Melissa Clark: Is it too late?
Jessie Southworth: The issue— I think there's an issue. The issue I would have with that is that it's just supposed to be a badge right here. I don't know if it would look weird.
Soraya Farmer: Yeah, I was just making sure it's like—
Jessie Southworth: But maybe.
Cherie Curtis: I mean, you could have the badge bigger and then just move 5 times further down.
Jessie Southworth: Yeah, that's true.
Melissa Clark: What does it look like when they have the club ones?
Jessie Southworth: They're all big.
Zac Huish: Yeah.
Cherie Curtis: Oh, okay.
Zac Huish: Yeah.
Charlotte Ducos: Pulling off the pictures.
Steve Mumford: Some of them use the whole front of the jersey for their stuff.
Cherie Curtis: Yeah, our new team is really small.
Steve Mumford: Here's what it looks like on the big screen with the number. We don't have a mock-up of without the number. I asked them for one.
Jessie Southworth: To me, I feel like without the number it's almost less busy, but I guess that doesn't matter.
Melissa Clark: I don't know.
Jessie Southworth: Does anyone—
Cherie Curtis: yeah.
Mare Burningham: I will say this personally as a spectator, not a participant in sports. I like seeing the number on the front because no matter which way they're going up or down the field, it's easier to identify the players. So that's the only comment I have.
Charlotte Ducos: So, yeah, this is an example.
Melissa Clark: Of—
Charlotte Ducos: it's really small because it's on my phone, but this is an example.
Steve Mumford: On the big screen there. Sponsor.
Charlotte Ducos: Yeah, so that's what it would look like without the number.
Jessie Southworth: Question is, is it worth it to save $1,000 overall?
Charlotte Ducos: To have no number there?
Soraya Farmer: To have—
Charlotte Ducos: yeah.
Melissa Clark: I don't think it's necessary.
Cherie Curtis: I agree with Mare that it is nice, particularly like the older they are and the busier that it is on the field. But with a bunch of little kids where it's only 5 on the, you know, 5v5 on the field, it's not that big that it's hard to recognize what kid is who.
Mare Burningham: Try it without and see how it goes and consider if it's necessary for another year.
Jessie Southworth: How much is the total bill?
Steve Mumford: Um, almost, almost $12,000 with the number on the front, and obviously it's minus almost $1,000.
Charlotte Ducos: It's just a whole extra site that they have to press. So yeah, how many kids can you sponsor if you don't pay that $1,000 for a number? If we can pay for 10 more kids to play, then—
Mare Burningham: I think that's a really good point, Charlotte.
Jessie Southworth: I do too. So I mean, I think saving— because I don't think it makes it look worse, like it doesn't look less nice or anything, right? take away from anything. So I would say, I don't know if we— I don't think we have to.
Charlotte Ducos: I think that's just a design decision that Jason makes.
Jessie Southworth: So yeah, we have to— so, but there's our input.
Don Hamm: So yes, it's my computer.
Melissa Clark: It seems like I have a computer.
Jessie Southworth: The general consensus though is like, it's okay to not have the number.
Steve Mumford: Okay, yeah, I'll, uh, hopefully they send me another mock-up in the morning, but they started working And then if you've got a—
Charlotte Ducos: if you get complaints, because, you know, I can't see their number, you know, if you get a lot of complaints, you can go back to putting it on there.
Steve Mumford: Yeah, we can always add it later. Or just tell them that you sponsored a whole bunch more kids.
Soraya Farmer: That's right.
Mare Burningham: I think most people would feel really good about that.
Jessie Southworth: Sorry.
Soraya Farmer: Yeah.
Jessie Southworth: On that note though, We did discuss some approaches for seeking out sponsors. So we've got all the jersey sponsors covered, but we don't have any of the, like, banner sponsors or anything like that. So that can still happen. So I would say don't give up. Like, if you know of businesses that might want to, let them know about it. We didn't— we decided we didn't want to put it on the website because that— or not on the website. On social media.
Soraya Farmer: On social media.
Jessie Southworth: Because we don't want to look like we're Trying to ask for more money.
Cherie Curtis: But I think if you word it in such a way, it doesn't look like we're needy and need the money. You can just be like, hey businesses, if you want an opportunity to advertise, come help our rec department and be a sponsor. I don't think the citizens are gonna be like, oh, it's cheap, a cheap city trying to— yeah, I think if you word it right and it's, it's more geared to businesses, not the individual citizen, It might be a good way to get others out of the woodwork that maybe wouldn't see it, you know, from commerce or whatever.
Melissa Clark: It might be good to do it on LinkedIn because a lot of businesses look for stuff like that on LinkedIn as opposed to Facebook.
Jessie Southworth: Does Eagle Mountain have— does the city have a LinkedIn?
Soraya Farmer: Yeah, yeah.
Charlotte Ducos: It's also a good angle to, you know, instead of saying, you know, sponsor us, it's help kids, you know, help kids play.
Cherie Curtis: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Jessie Southworth: That's a very good point.
Soraya Farmer: If you want us to post on LinkedIn, should they just email Jason like before, like email rec, or what would you want?
Mare Burningham: The contact for someone?
Jessie Southworth: There's, I mean, yes.
Steve Mumford: It's right on there.
Jessie Southworth: There's a link. Yeah.
Steve Mumford: Do you have that advertisement?
Soraya Farmer: I don't know if I do. Kyle might have it, but unfortunately he's not here right now, so if you could send it to me. Oh, is it what we— oh, okay. I think we just put your contact information. Is that okay with you?
Jessie Southworth: Okay.
Steve Mumford: Well, in the email on it was like rec. Yeah.
Soraya Farmer: And that one's okay? Instead of J-Hall?
Melissa Clark: Okay, cool.
Soraya Farmer: Thank you.
Jessie Southworth: That's a good idea.
Soraya Farmer: Um, when would you want a post? Is that like as soon as possible, or—
Steve Mumford: I think so, yeah. Okay, that would be awesome.
Jessie Southworth: Um, we did— there was a football banner up on the pickleball courts for a while, but that has officially been taken down. And so I think if you guys ever see unauthorized banners up there, who should we— how should we handle that if we see them?
Charlotte Ducos: Should we just put it in the app?
Melissa Clark: Put it in the app and Neighborhood Improvement will get assigned to take it down.
Steve Mumford: Yeah, just in the—
Zac Huish: well, I just called Jim and told him, and he, he went over there and took it down.
Steve Mumford: On that note, you should have to put in the app too. If there's anything you see at a park that needs fixing, like maintenance type thing, or a trail that needs whatever, instead of bringing it into this group, just those fixes, just put it in the portal on the app. Our parks crews will handle it.
Jessie Southworth: I use that app all the time. And they're gonna get super annoyed at They haven't gotten mad at me yet.
Melissa Clark: I mean, maybe they have, they just don't talk about it.
Charlotte Ducos: Not out loud.
Steve Mumford: You're the one that says anonymous.
Melissa Clark: I can't because the council has to log in. Oh, put anything in there. So you guys, if I put something in, you know it.
Jessie Southworth: Um, last night was the off-street trails plan. Was that— has that all been passed now?
Steve Mumford: Yeah. That was approved.
Soraya Farmer: Great.
Steve Mumford: So then the next steps are trying to get some money. And, and just FYI, if I didn't tell you last time, I, I met with Ty Shepherd with the Lake Mountain Trails Association. Adam, who was involved with that, is still on the board but no longer the president. And so Ty's not the president either. Cam Wixom is the president, but he lives in Saratoga Springs. So Ty volunteered who lives up there on O'Wahii, Skyline Ridge, and he's awesome. He's a firefighter with Salt Lake City Fire, and his wife is also on the, on the board as well, and he's involved with the high school team and another group, a biking group as well. Anyway, I met with him a couple times. He produced a A first-year work proposal for— that goes along with our MOU, our Memorandum of Understanding with Sitla that I'm working on to be able to get access, legal access to all the trails on their property up in the Hidden Valley area. So we're getting close on that. We got that over to Sitla last night. They're excited to work with us, but Sedla is Sedla, and they may end up wanting to make more changes to the agreement and a bunch of other things.
Zac Huish: Just imagine like the slowest government possible and then multiply it by 10.
Melissa Clark: Experience that one.
Steve Mumford: But we are making progress on that, and they were— he was excited about— they came last night again to see the off-street trails plan approved. And I asked them— so let me step back. The goal is to have the Lake Mountain Trails Association be mainly responsible for maintenance of these trails and cleaning the properties and everything up in that whole Hidden Valley area. And they're good with that. And they'll have a plan each year for which trails they want to improve. And he said they're gonna focus this year on not creating new trails. But adding a couple of little connections, but then focusing on maintaining the safety, improving the safety and rideability of the trails.
Melissa Clark: And are they going to come directly to council for funding?
Charlotte Ducos: Or is that going to be a WRAP application?
Steve Mumford: I think generally, they will collect their own money, they'll get donations. And they've been able to do that before. But we would want to partner with them on some projects and be able to use some city, whether it's RAP tax or other funding, and some of their money. For instance, we budgeted— we have, I believe, in our capital projects— I'm trying to remember if it's the capital— I think it's in the utility sale proceeds. There's about $70,000 set aside for the bike park specifically. Specifically for expansion and fixing and other things. We can, we can work with Lake Mountain Trails on figuring out what to do there, but I think ultimately we'll need to hire a firm to do a better design— not a better, a next step, next level design for a phase 1 of that, and then determine how much that costs and how For the wayfinding signs, is that separate from what the Lake Mountain Trails Association is doing?
Charlotte Ducos: The ones where we were gonna put how far and what the name of the trail is and all of that?
Steve Mumford: So there are some signs up there already that look pretty nice, but we can still modify it and change to look more like the plan shows. But Ty's actually the one that made those. And they have the name of the trail, and then they have the logo of the city, and the logo of Lake Mountain Trails Association, and the difficulty level. Not sure about the distance, they might. And then he was going to add Sitla's logo to the ones on Sitla property because that's what they wanted. And he said, I would still make those and put them up.
Mare Burningham: Trading cards.
Steve Mumford: I think he was using his own money for that. I told them, well, let's work together and figure out a solution. So, I think it's a good idea though to be able to get some wayfinding signs early in Phase 1.
Jessie Southworth: When we get those, um, like when we need to like hire a firm or something, is it— how do you advertise that you need, that we need one of those? Do you guys reach out to people yourself? Like, how does that work?
Steve Mumford: Just depends on the The cost. So if it's under— yeah, I have to pull it up, but if it's within a certain amount, we just need to go get some bids from up to 3 different companies.
Jessie Southworth: Do you just choose random companies?
Melissa Clark: Don't you have to post it on the RFP?
Steve Mumford: You only do if it's above a certain— oh, certain cost.
Charlotte Ducos: Yeah.
Melissa Clark: But you have to get at least 3.
Jessie Southworth: Yeah.
Melissa Clark: So that's kind of—
Jessie Southworth: I just always wonder if there's— because I feel like there's a lot of things that get hired out that people locally could do that don't know that.
Steve Mumford: So, if it's some wayfinding signs, and we're only doing 5 of them or something, it'll be under that cost threshold.
Jessie Southworth: Right.
Steve Mumford: We may not even need 3 official bids if it's low. If it's under $5,000, I don't know that we need even that. But, if it's over $5,000, I think you need 3 bids.
Melissa Clark: And, if it's just a bid, you have to go with who has the lowest bid.
Cherie Curtis: Correct?
Charlotte Ducos: No.
Steve Mumford: Oh, nope, not on that. Not on something like that.
Jessie Southworth: Okay, good. All right. Um, cool. Was there any other things that have— like any other current projects or things that— or things that have happened in the last month that we needed to— anything that we talked about? I don't think I saw anything.
Steve Mumford: We went to the farmers market again. And Charlotte and Jessie were there and gave out more free stuff.
Zac Huish: It was great. There were 2 park benches put in Sage Valley Park, just random showed up. I was like, oh, Ronnie.
Cherie Curtis: So was that— I was gonna ask, are the same park benches being put in at, uh, Smith Ranch? Like, that was a more specific one.
Zac Huish: I asked about those like 3 years ago.
Melissa Clark: Oh, you did?
Steve Mumford: So come back in 3 years.
Charlotte Ducos: There we go.
Melissa Clark: It took me 9 years to get Smithfield.
Jessie Southworth: With that list that we recommended, has the council like officially gotten that list?
Steve Mumford: And no, like, what list? So that, that list only went out in an email to the council and mayor as an update on what happened with our Community Services Board meeting last time. And so I'm thinking about how do we officially present those to the council.
Jessie Southworth: With our, like, we have recommendations that we have things that we would like, that we think should be priorities and get done right now. Would you like it, like, do we need to do it in an official capacity at a council meeting?
Charlotte Ducos: Well, I think because everybody keeps saying just bring us the prioritization. Well, we have it. That's what we're talking about.
Zac Huish: Bring it to a work session, wouldn't you say, Steve?
Steve Mumford: We could set it up on a work session. We got the information to you quickly.
Zac Huish: Do we know how we're proposing to pay?
Charlotte Ducos: We were told to just give you a list.
Melissa Clark: Here's my thoughts. Let's wait until after August 18th to bring our wish list to City Council, and then we can discuss it.
Steve Mumford: Why?
Zac Huish: Why would you wait till after August 18th?
Melissa Clark: Because there's already criticism of what we're spending money on.
Zac Huish: It's just like, we have money for—
Jessie Southworth: Well, that's why, but like, because Steve sent it in an email, so if this— does it need to come in an official meeting, or can I—
Zac Huish: I'm just— what would make it actionable? Would it be, here are the projects, here's the estimated cost per project, kind of like we did with the—
Steve Mumford: That's what we need.
Zac Huish: Bigger capital projects. So do we have dollars assigned to each of those?
Steve Mumford: I can— I'll work with, um, with our Parks Department and get numbers. To go with it.
Mare Burningham: Okay.
Zac Huish: And then that'd be the only thing we need is the priority list.
Steve Mumford: I'll talk on Monday with—
Zac Huish: how many things are on that list?
Steve Mumford: It was only like 8 or so.
Soraya Farmer: Okay.
Steve Mumford: It was a small list because it was things that the board thought could be implemented fairly quickly, I think.
Charlotte Ducos: One of them goes along with one of the things you were talking about for the community block grant last night. It was ADA compliance. Yes, at a couple of parks. So that one you could actually knock out with the community block grant if that's what you choose to do with it. There's a couple parks that reported that they weren't ADA compliant, and so the— what's actually on our list is that we—
Melissa Clark: We can just say that this door's open. No, we have to leave one open.
Steve Mumford: We'll close this for now.
Charlotte Ducos: What we, what we said on the list was that these, I think it's 2, are not compliant, so we need to take care of those. But we also said that staff should see, you know, look at our other parks to see what others need done.
Melissa Clark: In that case, I think you should bring it sooner. I was thinking that it was like the dream big stuff.
Jessie Southworth: No, the small stuff.
Mare Burningham: The small, quick, affordable stuff.
Steve Mumford: So let me— I'll get numbers. I'll talk to Parks Department. I'll talk to Ben on Monday, and we'll figure out the best way to—
Zac Huish: So we just have to get a project price. Budget, I think we'll be fine.
Charlotte Ducos: It's like benches and curbs and—
Zac Huish: Easy.
Steve Mumford: Some of it, like benches, for instance, we could probably fit that into the current parks budget and just take care of it.
Zac Huish: And just a little sign next to the bench, brought to you by the Community Services Board.
Mare Burningham: I love it.
Steve Mumford: What do you think?
Melissa Clark: No, I, I think that—
Zac Huish: I think that stuff will just sell through.
Melissa Clark: Well, especially stuff that we have to use community development block grant funds for. We have leftovers from last year, so let's ADA this place on up.
Jessie Southworth: Like, what are we waiting for?
Cherie Curtis: Did that include the art for the electrical boxes?
Jessie Southworth: Was that in that?
Steve Mumford: That was on that list.
Cherie Curtis: That was on that list, that's what I thought.
Charlotte Ducos: But that does— I don't think that falls in this.
Melissa Clark: Doesn't Rocky Mountain Power pay?
Mare Burningham: There was a program.
Melissa Clark: You design it and they pay the art for it.
Charlotte Ducos: Well, I was— we had been talking about the ADA, so that's what I was connecting it to. It's not— it's not ADA or the low income either.
Jessie Southworth: But yes, Rocky Mountain Power has.
Steve Mumford: But the ADA rates should be eligible.
Melissa Clark: How long until the Walmart one's gonna happen? Because that's one of the most crucial ones that I've heard people—
Steve Mumford: We're starting that one soon.
Melissa Clark: Okay. Because I thought about that all last night when they were talking about it.
Don Hamm: I was like—
Charlotte Ducos: But he said there it's already Funded, so we can't use the—
Melissa Clark: No, I know. I was—
Jessie Southworth: yes.
Zac Huish: So the priority list, we'll just have numbers, bring it to the work session, kind of work through it with the council, and then if it's all good to go—
Melissa Clark: I would also say, so what the list is, what the dollar amount is, and what funds we can use for them. So if it's eligible for community development, or if it's eligible for parks funding, that's helpful for us because then we know there's already money to cover it.
Soraya Farmer: So we have any—
Mare Burningham: Steve, I'm just curious, were you able to get updated cost signs?
Jessie Southworth: Interpretive signs?
Melissa Clark: It does start in April, but it's at the end of each of the quarters.
Mare Burningham: So we will get it.
Melissa Clark: I think we've got our first one. And do you remember that?
Steve Mumford: Yeah, I think so. That was part of our—
Soraya Farmer: it was one of the stipulations.
Melissa Clark: Saratoga Springs waited an entire year before they even talked about If we didn't— they have a high cost.
Steve Mumford: I mean, a high estimate, right? And they actually cost less.
Mare Burningham: Yeah, they're very— they're a lot more expensive than they had in that plan. So, like, they had $400, and that covers nothing, basically.
Jessie Southworth: Okay, so I think that covers everything we talked about last meeting and things that went on. So, let's Let's move on to what the communications team has for us this week.
Mare Burningham: Yay!
Soraya Farmer: Just me.
Mare Burningham: No.
Soraya Farmer: Hi, I'm Soraya. I don't know if I've met all of you, or I've probably seen you around, you've probably seen me around, but just wanted to say hi. I'm the digital communications specialist. I work a lot with Kyle Ireland. You might have seen him around as well. We just wanted to come to this meeting—
Jessie Southworth: we—
Soraya Farmer: I just wanted to come to this meeting, sorry. just to see how we can all work together, how we can best help you. And, um, I wanted to say I just got your business card and the scorpion hunt was like a huge hit.
Mare Burningham: I don't know if you helped with that at all, but—
Soraya Farmer: It was.
Mare Burningham: We have a great turnout.
Melissa Clark: That was a huge hit.
Soraya Farmer: Like, people were losing their minds. They were so happy. Um, our like social media posts about it did really incredible.
Melissa Clark: I was a little skeptical because scorpions kind of scare me, just being 100% honest.
Soraya Farmer: Um, but like, this was an incredible—
Mare Burningham: Eagle Mountain has a dark side, and we found that whenever we do creepy crawly things like snakes and scorpions and spiders and so forth, people come.
Steve Mumford: That's— the whole room out here was packed.
Mare Burningham: Yeah.
Steve Mumford: I saw the photos. I wanted to go with my son and we couldn't make it work.
Soraya Farmer: Well, everyone keeps commenting, um, wondering when we're doing it again. So if, if we are doing it again, we're happy to That was like the 4th one we've done. Yeah. Oh really?
Mare Burningham: They've all been really well attended.
Melissa Clark: The first 2, I think they had to do at the chamber office because no one in City Hall would let them do it over here. There's a new sheriff in town. Yeah.
Steve Mumford: I think I've never even heard that we did it.
Don Hamm: Yeah.
Soraya Farmer: Yeah, I did not know until this morning.
Melissa Clark: Because they had like 98 people show up to the chamber office, which it doesn't hold 98 people, but—
Steve Mumford: Do you know where they actually went to do it?
Melissa Clark: Well, they've done Hidden Canyon the last few times that I was aware of it, but I don't know where they went this one time.
Mare Burningham: I wasn't here, so I'm not sure exactly where they went.
Melissa Clark: Hidden Canyon is where they've gone before, and there's parking over there because there's a trailhead.
Soraya Farmer: Anyway, there's just—
Mare Burningham: I'll ask Dana if you want to know.
Melissa Clark: We should do like a team building activity with the Community Services Board where we go find—
Mare Burningham: I've actually done it, but I'd really rather not.
Melissa Clark: I don't want anyone out.
Mare Burningham: Just take it back to my yard.
Don Hamm: You'd be surprised.
Jessie Southworth: I don't want to do that.
Mare Burningham: Get you a black flashlight and go out in your own neighborhood.
Jessie Southworth: Any sense of place?
Soraya Farmer: Yes.
Mare Burningham: Ignorant.
Cherie Curtis: Ignorant, thank you.
Melissa Clark: I thought you said—
Soraya Farmer: No, no, no, you're good. Um, I was just gonna say if there's any like events you want us to help promote, we're always happy to post that on our social media. Just try to give us as much time as possible just because it takes a little bit of time to make graphics or write a blog post or whatever we we need to do, but we're super happy to help however we can. You can send it all to Steve and he can send it to us, or I don't know what the best, like, workflow—
Charlotte Ducos: That's what I was going to ask, is do we contact you directly or do we go through Steve?
Steve Mumford: I think, um, I think for now talk to me.
Mare Burningham: Okay.
Steve Mumford: Yeah, and then I'll get it over and work with them. I talk to them every day anyways.
Melissa Clark: We are working on a big—
Mare Burningham: we're working on a big project that we were looking at working with EM-SERV, We're going to need a lot of volunteers come like October, November-ish. We have thousands of sagebrush seedlings to plant for habitat restoration. I can let you know more specific dates as we come to them. So we're working— yeah.
Melissa Clark: You should just trick people into coming here. You tell them it's a scorpion hunt. Yeah. To find the scorpions, care to dig this hole up in this That's a great idea. You'll have a huge turnout. Bait and switch. That's so funny. Service after dark.
Charlotte Ducos: Notice if you bury that creepy crawly in the hole.
Melissa Clark: That'd be amazing. Make sure you take pictures and tag us on Facebook. Oh my gosh, that's funny.
Soraya Farmer: No, we're super happy to help, like, however we can. Like, our team's here to help. Photos, video, blog posts, on our calendar. Newsletter. We have a lot of different channels of media, so however we can best help you, we're here for you.
Zac Huish: You guys are doing really well.
Soraya Farmer: Oh, thank you, thank you. We're trying, trying really hard.
Melissa Clark: Somebody was telling me how much better our comms department is than Saratoga, and they weren't wrong.
Soraya Farmer: Oh, thank you.
Mare Burningham: I think you're doing really great work.
Soraya Farmer: We're trying, but we can always be better, so however we can best, like, support everyone else, that's That's why we're here, to support the community and do really fun events. Um, is there anything like besides what you just mentioned, this, the sagebrush, and then also posting, um, about the recreation, um, sponsorship opportunities, is there anything else at the moment that we can help with or any other upcoming projects that, um, we could add to our list?
Jessie Southworth: Yeah, would it be possible For you guys to create something that says Community Services Board so that if we go to like Shop Fest, we have a legit looking thing. You know, I, I don't want a banner.
Steve Mumford: You're talking like a banner?
Melissa Clark: Yeah, like a 1-foot or 2-foot banner so they can hang it up in front of like a regular sign for it.
Jessie Southworth: I didn't have a banner, but—
Melissa Clark: Well, we have money for banners.
Soraya Farmer: I'm not in charge of budgets.
Melissa Clark: You donate a ton of your time. Confirm that. Sorry, the Community Services I think— Has a budget.
Steve Mumford: Okay, go ahead and design something.
Soraya Farmer: Yeah. And I'll send it to Steve.
Melissa Clark: I'll use your budget for it. Wait, what?
Jessie Southworth: Put it on paper too for different things, like just the—
Soraya Farmer: A logo?
Jessie Southworth: Like a logo for just to show—
Melissa Clark: Or like the E that says Community Services by it, just like we have one for parks and other stuff.
Jessie Southworth: Like, it doesn't have to be—
Steve Mumford: Probably do that.
Mare Burningham: One thing we're working on, I don't know, Steve, maybe you can help whether this is appropriate or not, but we will have the Tod A. Black Scholarship sponsorship campaign coming up soon, and we're hopeful that the city might be able to help us advertising for—
Melissa Clark: The city will help advertise for the Tod Black Scholarship. We're very familiar with that.
Mare Burningham: We're looking for— to encourage people to donate. It's going to be an endowed scholarship, we hope.
Steve Mumford: It's at Utah State University.
Mare Burningham: Utah State University. Yeah, so we're hoping to be able to award the first scholarship spring of 2027 for their spring semester.
Soraya Farmer: So yeah, I mean, I don't see why not.
Mare Burningham: I can send you materials and Yeah, going into biological research.
Soraya Farmer: I think— I don't see why we'd say no.
Mare Burningham: It'd be nice.
Soraya Farmer: So I'm saying yes.
Mare Burningham: It'd be nice to have that sort of support in the city because we can accept, you know, small donations from residents that may have interacted with Todd or have students that are interested in that sort of thing, as well as corporate sponsors or donors.
Soraya Farmer: So yeah, I think— thanks.
Jessie Southworth: On that note though, I do have a question in In regards to the sponsorship things, when we get— because it's probably for you guys— when we get sponsors for those banners, do we want to have them like just their logo, or is this something that we want like to have a design that their logo fits onto so that all the banners look nice? Is that some— do we care about that?
Soraya Farmer: How—
Jessie Southworth: what would you guys prefer, that if there are banners on our pickleball courts that they look a certain way? I think it's just like, Yes, yeah, yes please.
Soraya Farmer: Um, yeah, you can just send them our way and we're happy to design something.
Jessie Southworth: So if we get their logos and we'll give them to you guys?
Melissa Clark: Yeah. What we have to do with economic development signs, for the ladder signs that are around the city, they just have to get approved by the economic development director. So maybe as a part of your policy that you write, we figure out whatever staff member is the one that signs off on them, because that way we can have like a process for them.
Steve Mumford: Yeah, with most the recreation stuff, most of the sponsorship stuff, Jason and basically Jason and Jessie.
Melissa Clark: Yeah, he was in The Devil Wears Prada, so he knows a ton about design.
Soraya Farmer: Were you really?
Jessie Southworth: Is that really your legs?
Melissa Clark: I was like, who were you? I watched that recently, actually. I'm like, were you— that would happen.
Soraya Farmer: Maybe you were an extra. That would actually be really cool.
Steve Mumford: It's my side view. So for the record, she said yes, he was in Buried.
Mare Burningham: And show us your legs.
Zac Huish: And it flopped.
Don Hamm: Oh dear.
Melissa Clark: You're an actual movie star.
Soraya Farmer: We have a real movie star here.
Cherie Curtis: Oh, he really was.
Zac Huish: That's actually really cool. No way.
Mare Burningham: Oh nice.
Steve Mumford: It flopped, but—
Melissa Clark: But you can still say it.
Mare Burningham: It's still good to watch. It's still watchable. I got to meet him.
Soraya Farmer: It was a good time.
Steve Mumford: That's why Jay's on this board.
Soraya Farmer: For the star power. We need at least one.
Jessie Southworth: Yeah.
Soraya Farmer: But yeah, any design needs you want or anything you need on social media or our website, just make sure to reach out to our team. We're happy to help.
Steve Mumford: So what we, what we don't necessarily want is the board or individual board members directing the communications Right. Put this out, put this out, put this out. Kind of an advisory board.
Mare Burningham: Yes.
Steve Mumford: Now you do make decisions on, on some funding and sponsor— sponsorships and stuff, but, um, but what we don't want to do is like limit it either, and, and for me to be telling you no. Um, so don't overdo it with posts all the time, but if there are needs, then let's—
Jessie Southworth: they're here to help Would you prefer, like, the board all discuss it and it come from me to you, or how do you— I mean, I think we'll all be in agreement with it all, so it should be fine.
Melissa Clark: I think that things should always go through the chair, because if someone comes back and says, what's going on with this, you deserve to be able to know and be able to speak to it. So I think that's a good process.
Steve Mumford: We don't have to wait and talk about everything in a meeting. necessarily, right, for a post. But yeah, if we want to advertise, if we have an event coming up, we want to advertise for it, that's not a standard city event.
Melissa Clark: Converse with Jesse and Jesse will get it to Steve.
Jessie Southworth: Yes.
Melissa Clark: Sounds good.
Soraya Farmer: That sounds like a great process to me. And then Steve will get it to us. But we'll all get it.
Mare Burningham: As long as it doesn't end up like the telephone game.
Melissa Clark: Yeah, we have a good concept. That's awesome.
Soraya Farmer: No, we're trying to like—
Steve Mumford: It'll turn into a scorpion hunt every time.
Melissa Clark: That's what we're gonna do for Truth in Taxation. I'm here for the scorpion! It'll be awesome.
Soraya Farmer: But we love our wildlife, so.
Steve Mumford: Anything else? Anything else that you've been thinking of that— Anything else we can Communications can help us with.
Jessie Southworth: Do we have any other events? We haven't— Charlotte, did you need help promoting something?
Charlotte Ducos: Um, it's not till September 2nd, and then there will be one probably in the next couple weeks after that, um, because we have the, um, pop-up museum at Cedar Valley for America 250, um, on September 2nd. And then sometime between then, I need to get with the school to book that one, but sometime between the 2nd and the 17th, we'll do the Constitution boot camp also at Cedar Valley. So, so I won't bug you quite yet, but how far in advance do you like to have those?
Soraya Farmer: Honestly, as soon as you have all the info, at least maybe 2 weeks before, if that's I mean, I understand sometimes there's like last-minute things, so if it does need to be last minute, we can do it, but just as much time as possible.
Charlotte Ducos: I'm assuming in writing is better, so I'll send an email to Jesse who can send it to Steve, who will send it to you.
Soraya Farmer: I know it's kind of a lengthy process, but—
Steve Mumford: Or just send it to Jesse and me at the same time. Oh yeah, visibility.
Charlotte Ducos: I'll get the date for the second event so I can send both in one email. Because they'll be within a couple weeks of each other. So I'll get that and then I'll send that over.
Soraya Farmer: I just have a lot of amazing people that I work with and a lot of different projects, so just as soon as possible is why I say that. We have so many cool things going on.
Melissa Clark: That's true.
Soraya Farmer: Awesome.
Cherie Curtis: Well, thank you.
Jessie Southworth: Is there anything else? Anything you need from us?
Soraya Farmer: Questions? I don't think so. I don't know. I know you were messaging us about like the walk-through. Do you have anything?
Steve Mumford: I'll talk about that in just a bit.
Soraya Farmer: Yeah, I don't know.
Steve Mumford: Are you sticking around for the— or are you leaving soon?
Soraya Farmer: Um, whatever you need.
Melissa Clark: Well, don't say it. Get it out of the way now.
Soraya Farmer: Yeah, um, I, I'm not sure if you wanted our input. I don't know if you have any input on that at all, or if there's anything else you need from us.
Steve Mumford: Otherwise, I'm good. So, uh, we'll talk about it as a board.
Soraya Farmer: And then bring it back.
Steve Mumford: But, um, we will want your help.
Mare Burningham: Like promoting?
Steve Mumford: Promoting it, and figure out what the best way to do that is.
Mare Burningham: And yes.
Soraya Farmer: Sounds good to me.
Steve Mumford: For the Walk 30 and the treasure hunt and And then the Constitution camps and these other things that were— that are not like standard city events.
Charlotte Ducos: And then do we have— do we have it when you scan the QR code on our bingo card? Does it actually take us to a list of additional activities, or do we need to create that?
Soraya Farmer: No answer. Okay, I think it goes to like our calendar, so they can just go to find anything, any of the, any of the events that we have. Um, if there's anything we need to add to that calendar, please let us know as well. But we have— I feel like we have so many good events. Hopefully they'll find at least one. Something to get to. Yeah, we have a lot.
Charlotte Ducos: I just wanted to make sure we weren't sending them to nowhere when they scan that QR code.
Soraya Farmer: Um, we can make like an updated post if you want, like about the bingo, like, hey, if you missed any of the events, go to our website, look at the community calendar, any of these events count.
Charlotte Ducos: That way they know what happens when they scan that QR code. And why they were taken to a calendar.
Melissa Clark: They're like, what?
Charlotte Ducos: Thank you for the calendar.
Melissa Clark: Melissa, did you have something? Yeah, so related to comms, I think while we're waiting for RAP tax dollars and RAP tax projects to get visibility and like actually exist. If there's anything that the comms department thinks that like they can almost do like a man on the street or something like the stuff that Charlotte's doing or the bingo card, I think that all the people who serve on Community Services Board could ultimately be a cool person in one of your reels. So I'm volunteering all of them.
Soraya Farmer: As long as you're okay with it.
Melissa Clark: If you don't want to be on social media—
Soraya Farmer: You're all okay.
Melissa Clark: Not Jessie, but everyone else. She likes to post. She doesn't like to be in the—
Jessie Southworth: I like to be behind the camera.
Steve Mumford: Charlotte's our salesperson.
Melissa Clark: I think us giving a face to— because that was a big deal to people to pass the route tax, is that their neighbors, the residents of Eagle Mountain, would help guide that process. So I think it's a neat way to help fill the space between now and when projects actually get accomplished.
Charlotte Ducos: And we laughed about it when we talked about, you know, saying brought to you by the Community Services Board, but I actually think that when we do projects with the RAP tax, we really should have some kind of a plate or something on them that says paid for by your RAP tax dollars, because then people can see that it actually did something.
Steve Mumford: That's a great idea.
Melissa Clark: That's a requirement too. If somebody writes for a grant with you guys, they have to show how they're going to demonstrate that it came from the RAP tax. But anyway, I just think giving it a human face and letting people see that these are the residents that are representing them is kind of a cool thing to do.
Charlotte Ducos: Once we do have benches at Smith Ranch Park, oh my gosh, we should go do a video that says, hey—
Melissa Clark: No, let's do it to like a trendy song. Oh my gosh, perfect. Like the Full House music. It shows like a bunch of you at the bench.
Charlotte Ducos: We need some before and after though. We need footage with no benches and looking around trying to find—
Melissa Clark: It could be really candid, like with those Jib Jab videos with just our faces on cut out.
Mare Burningham: You know what I mean? Have you seen the Jib Jab videos?
Soraya Farmer: Schedules. Like, I can do reels, but I would say my coworker Ashley is just— that's more her forte. Like, we all, I feel like, are really good at everything, but I would say she's the best at that. So maybe if we can schedule a time when she's working, um, I think that would be the best. Okay.
Jessie Southworth: All right, that's awesome. Thank you so much. Anything else? If not, then we will go ahead and move on. And first off, again, thank you for coming and being here for us. Thank you, Soraya. You guys really are great.
Mare Burningham: It was nice to meet you, by the way. I've never met you before.
Soraya Farmer: Yes, thank you.
Charlotte Ducos: Yeah, thanks to the name.
Jessie Southworth: All right, now we will go on and move to the Healthy Utah Community Designation, and we'll turn the time over to Steve. I forgot in the very beginning to— did I excuse Steve Conger and Liz? No, excuse me.
Charlotte Ducos: I was gonna say, do I need to— do I need to note that I entered? Sorry for Sorry for being late.
Jessie Southworth: It's all good.
Charlotte Ducos: Charlotte Ducos is here.
Jessie Southworth: And I meant to excuse Steve and Liz, and I forgot to do that. Now you may go.
Steve Mumford: We'll show that in the minutes. Okay, um, see if my computer, when I rebooted, if it got everything back. Okay, now we'll see if this works. And if not, that is okay, because it's not like I have anything amazing to show you. So we did send out— Jessie sent out some ideas for Healthy Utah. And Yeah, it looks like it may not do it.
Melissa Clark: What's the issue?
Steve Mumford: I don't know.
Jessie Southworth: Is it all plugged in?
Steve Mumford: It's plugged in.
Melissa Clark: We were having issues with stuff yesterday. I wonder if part of it is because we switched over to Zoom in here and we're still figuring things out because—
Steve Mumford: We do have a pretty cool new system for the video.
Zac Huish: I'm gonna just direct plug into the HDMI port on the TV.
Melissa Clark: That's what he was doing.
Steve Mumford: No, that could be. I mean, that one is plugged into the TV and we've always used it that way, but—
Melissa Clark: Do you want to unplug it from here and then just plug it into the TV?
Steve Mumford: The port is at the top somewhere.
Don Hamm: Are you sure?
Melissa Clark: Weird.
Jessie Southworth: None of those are on.
Steve Mumford: It's okay. We don't—
Melissa Clark: I don't have a lot to show, so We should have put a clip of Paunch Burger and a child-sized soda on Parks and Recreation because that would have been a hilarious lead-in to Healthy Utah designation.
Jessie Southworth: Would be.
Melissa Clark: True missed opportunity.
Jessie Southworth: Did you guys all get a chance to look over the email we sent about—
Soraya Farmer: Yes.
Melissa Clark: Thank you, by the way.
Soraya Farmer: I appreciate it.
Jessie Southworth: I feel like I sent a lot of lengthy things this month.
Soraya Farmer: That's good to have.
Steve Mumford: It's probably—
Charlotte Ducos: it's—
Steve Mumford: I think it's right below this on the back, but all right, it's okay. You sure?
Soraya Farmer: Yeah.
Steve Mumford: Okay, I can print out, uh, a couple of these if we need to.
Soraya Farmer: No, you can't.
Melissa Clark: We know you can't print.
Don Hamm: Liar!
Melissa Clark: He moved over to the other building. He's forgotten how to do anything over here.
Steve Mumford: My computer forgot how to do everything.
Melissa Clark: I don't know how to do it.
Jessie Southworth: You guys are on Windows. Come on.
Steve Mumford: Let's see if this works.
Melissa Clark: I know, I hate Windows.
Steve Mumford: Yeah, I think it is printing.
Soraya Farmer: We should see.
Charlotte Ducos: Okay.
Steve Mumford: We have the 3— What we need to do is identify 9 strategies that we have already implemented or are currently implementing and then identify 3 more that we— at least 3 more that we want to work on each year, this next year. And I'm going to check the printer real quick. Talk amongst yourselves.
Melissa Clark: I'll tell you a little bit about this because when— oh, sorry. Every year when we go to ULCT for our annual conference for Utah League of Cities and Towns, they call up all these cities and they get this designation. And I've been asking for this for like 3 years. I'm totes excited that it's finally happening because we already do most of the things on it.
Jessie Southworth: We just have to formalize it. Just to say that we're helping?
Melissa Clark: We're gonna make a sticker that has like bodybuilding on it and the E. Little sneaker. The E will wear sneakers. It'll be so good.
Steve Mumford: Ignore the check marks on this because that's just what's on their website.
Don Hamm: I don't know why.
Steve Mumford: I don't know why they have check marks.
Charlotte Ducos: It was weird.
Melissa Clark: So yeah, they have check marks on it.
Steve Mumford: Showing you what you need to do.
Charlotte Ducos: I was like, did somebody like go in and—
Melissa Clark: Maybe those are ones that you have to do. Are there certain ones you have to do?
Jessie Southworth: No, you just have to do 3 for each category.
Charlotte Ducos: And we actually, um, the funny thing is we have so many active living things, but, um, like some of them are in like in progress. They're not implemented, and it says they have to be fully implemented, right?
Zac Huish: So that like?
Melissa Clark: Well, organize a free or low-cost fitness event for your community. Turkey trot.
Charlotte Ducos: That one's done. Yeah, that one's done. But the, the active transportation, the off-street trails master plan is scheduled. So that's done now. So we can—
Soraya Farmer: yep.
Charlotte Ducos: Do we have to have done the things on it? Or do we just have to have approved it?
Jessie Southworth: That's the question.
Zac Huish: What about building the Smithfield? It's not Smithfield.
Jessie Southworth: Smith Ranch.
Melissa Clark: Yeah, that was the first one in the city.
Charlotte Ducos: We should Throw that on there.
Jessie Southworth: Let's see. Yeah, for sure.
Steve Mumford: I don't know how long, like, yeah, how far in the past.
Melissa Clark: Yeah, yeah, no, that's all back. Okay, well, when you just— active living list to find 3.
Jessie Southworth: Well, well, let's see.
Melissa Clark: Oh, Steve has a presentation.
Steve Mumford: I just have the ones that we sent out is all, which I'm trying to pull up again.
Jessie Southworth: So I mean, we have the annual turkey trot.
Charlotte Ducos: If we can count the off-street trails master plan because it's been approved, then that's our second one.
Jessie Southworth: And then we have for your low-cost community sports.
Charlotte Ducos: Yeah, well, okay, that's the other thing is, have— do we actually have scholarships available already now? Well, it has to be—
Jessie Southworth: it's low cost, says it is.
Charlotte Ducos: I mean, yeah, it has to be implemented.
Jessie Southworth: We've used— do we—
Melissa Clark: I promise you that we've had low-cost stuff for a long time. I feel like that's an easy check.
Jessie Southworth: It's just rec. We have rec sports.
Don Hamm: Yeah.
Jessie Southworth: And I think that counts.
Melissa Clark: Don't we have an active transportation plan already? I thought that got passed like in the 20—
Steve Mumford: We have a bike and pedestrian master plan.
Melissa Clark: That counts. That one's checked too.
Don Hamm: All of our schools have safe routes.
Steve Mumford: It was quite a while ago.
Jessie Southworth: All our schools have safe routes.
Mare Burningham: Who's doing the yoga or tai chi or whatever in the park already?
Steve Mumford: The library. Our library does yoga in the park.
Melissa Clark: See, that's why we could get this both times over.
Jessie Southworth: I mean, based on like what Steve sent me and what I've then sent out to you guys after I went through it, um, it's— we have more than 3 in each category.
Charlotte Ducos: Yeah, I just wasn't— the only one I wasn't sure on, because we have tons in the others, the only one I wasn't sure on is the things that we are actively like working on right now. But I didn't know if it counted if they were just approved or if they had to like actually be done. So, but if it just needs to be approved to be done, like there is a plan for it, then yeah, we were easy on all of them.
Zac Huish: Where did we land with the revitalization?
Melissa Clark: That's one of the things that's on the recommendation. Well, it's on one of the recommendations from them. And I think we've already budgeted $70,000 for Yeah, that's what he said.
Jessie Southworth: And that's in the off-street trails plan.
Charlotte Ducos: The plan that you approved last night?
Jessie Southworth: Yep.
Steve Mumford: And I think if you partner with Lake Mountain Trails Association, you can get extra money too.
Melissa Clark: Plus there's big businesses that want to write blank checks to us, so let's get that.
Steve Mumford: And in the meantime, they can write it to the Trails Association and say it needs to go towards this park.
Melissa Clark: Yep, all of it.
Steve Mumford: So which 3 do you want to identify? If we identify too many, then we can't use those again next year. Probably so.
Charlotte Ducos: So what are the ones that we have had the longest so that we can use more recent ones later? We could do the Turkey Trot, the free or low-cost community sports programs.
Melissa Clark: The second to the last one, that's the implement one new worksite wellness strategy. Our city does something, they have Wellness Wednesdays and they you something new every week. So like, that's an easy checkmark.
Charlotte Ducos: Wait, are you on the Active Living?
Mare Burningham: It's the last one.
Zac Huish: One new work site.
Melissa Clark: Are you guys on the other page?
Charlotte Ducos: Oh, I'm on a different page.
Jessie Southworth: Sorry everyone.
Charlotte Ducos: Yeah, I didn't know that we're—
Jessie Southworth: sorry.
Melissa Clark: Oh, I only got the front. Yeah, I only got one too.
Soraya Farmer: Yeah, sorry.
Don Hamm: Me too.
Mare Burningham: She just—
Steve Mumford: she had the one that I resent.
Melissa Clark: Oh, you probably—
Charlotte Ducos: sorry, different.
Melissa Clark: It's my fault. But the city does that one. That's a clear easy one.
Don Hamm: Yeah, another easy one would be the safe routes.
Jessie Southworth: Yeah, all of the schools have that.
Cherie Curtis: So, yep. Well, this is something you do every year to get—
Melissa Clark: No, isn't it every 2 or 3 years?
Jessie Southworth: So it says that you have to, um, 3 additional— so the city must identify 3 additional strategies to implement over the next 3 years.
Soraya Farmer: Oh, okay.
Jessie Southworth: And they can come from any of the 3 categories.
Melissa Clark: Well, and there's some on here already that are like going to be done within the next 18 months, so I think like the wayfinding signage.
Mare Burningham: Yep.
Cherie Curtis: So, I just need to keep track of what we do.
Jessie Southworth: So, you need to officially— did we already officially designate us as the health coalition?
Steve Mumford: I don't think so.
Melissa Clark: Wouldn't that be in a resolution when we turn this in? Like the council will do a resolution of that?
Steve Mumford: We can do that.
Zac Huish: Yes.
Melissa Clark: Just do it all at the same time.
Steve Mumford: We need to— so we will have to submit this before we do that?
Mare Burningham: Yeah.
Charlotte Ducos: It's due August. Will there be a problem post-dating? Are they going to verify when this got passed through council?
Melissa Clark: I'm a hard no on this one.
Jessie Southworth: Seriously?
Steve Mumford: We'll do what we can to, uh—
Charlotte Ducos: Let me guess, the soda.
Melissa Clark: The sugar tax. Yeah, I don't drink sugar, but still, no, hard pass.
Charlotte Ducos: I think there was one on, um, yeah, I believe in freedom of choice.
Jessie Southworth: I try to say soda.
Zac Huish: Okay, what about the community food system plan?
Steve Mumford: So are we making—
Charlotte Ducos: okay, did you get the ones that you needed?
Steve Mumford: So for the, for the first section, they have the Turkey Trot, Safe Routes to Schools, the off-street trails master plan, and bike and ped master plan. We also have the workplace worksite wellness.
Jessie Southworth: Do we have to submit like proof No.
Steve Mumford: No.
Jessie Southworth: Just the letter of commitment. And are you going to be doing this, the letter of commitment, or do you need me to do it?
Steve Mumford: No, I can prepare it. And I'll send it to you to review. And then what we'll do is we'll send it, we'll send it to the council. And Let them know that we will be submitting this, and if there are any concerns, tell us immediately. But otherwise, we'll submit it and we'll have the council do a resolution and, and, uh, awesome, say yes.
Cherie Curtis: Okay, so you got the 3 that you need?
Mare Burningham: Normally we would follow a better process, but yeah, we have the 3 for action. of living and healthy foods.
Melissa Clark: There's no shame in how we're doing this.
Charlotte Ducos: So the second one, establish a farmers market that accepts SNAP.
Jessie Southworth: We're good on that one.
Steve Mumford: So it does accept SNAP?
Mare Burningham: Yeah, it does.
Charlotte Ducos: We already have a seed exchange.
Mare Burningham: We sure do. In the library.
Charlotte Ducos: And we already have a pantry at the library.
Jessie Southworth: Yes.
Charlotte Ducos: We also already have ordinances that allow 3 or other animals. So if you're going for 4 instead of 3 to be the overachievers, those 4 are already easy.
Melissa Clark: Well, we did improve access to emergency food by establishing the food pantry program. That's one.
Mare Burningham: Yeah.
Melissa Clark: Oh, sorry, I was reading it. Maybe I shouldn't drink sugar-sweetened I have that.
Mare Burningham: If I'm writing notes, I can't hear what's being said.
Jessie Southworth: So yeah, I think the backyard poultry animal husbandry ordinances, the SNAP at the farmers market, the library pantry— I think those are all—
Mare Burningham: those are good ones.
Charlotte Ducos: And I think that one of our 3 that we want to implement over the next 3 years is I think that we should identify those junk pieces of property in different areas of our city and make them into— make ones that make sense into community gardens for that area.
Melissa Clark: Or a food forest.
Cherie Curtis: Yeah.
Jessie Southworth: We've actually had that suggestion before because they're like— there's an area by Walden Park, and I just don't know how that works in Practice. I don't know how you can even—
Charlotte Ducos: We've actually done it.
Steve Mumford: We've actually done it a couple of times.
Melissa Clark: Yeah, and it was a miserable failure.
Steve Mumford: Hasn't worked, but doesn't mean it won't. There are places that do, in other cities that have made it work.
Jessie Southworth: I just— I mean, you look at those, those little libraries, right?
Melissa Clark: Yeah.
Jessie Southworth: And the kids just come and destroy them. That's gonna happen.
Charlotte Ducos: Well, that's why it's got to be community-based. It needs to be like—
Melissa Clark: don't they have community gardens up in Eagle Heights? Because that was part of their approach. for their open space credit. They wanted credit for doing community gardens up there.
Charlotte Ducos: I know that there's some in the Saratoga-Lehigh area as well.
Mare Burningham: I think that would be a good idea in general to be able to have credit for establishing community— open space credit.
Melissa Clark: Because you just need water.
Mare Burningham: For establishing community gardens in neighborhoods.
Jessie Southworth: That is the thing is, yeah, you'd have to have water.
Charlotte Ducos: They would have to put water to it and then you would divide them into like Specific sizes.
Mare Burningham: Was that not—
Melissa Clark: No, what I was just thinking is what would be good is if you guys looked at— if you did some research on what a community garden would need and then brought to the City Council what the recommendations and requirements are, so that if we gave credit for open space—
Don Hamm: You understood.
Mare Burningham: Because criteria—
Melissa Clark: to Steve's point, we've done stuff like that to check a box and say we've got edible gardens here as a city, and they were just garbage within a year.
Zac Huish: Yeah.
Melissa Clark: So like, if we had requirements of what was—
Charlotte Ducos: We also need to focus in on areas that don't have enough of their own land because—
Mare Burningham: Yeah, in my neighborhood, right, nobody needs it.
Melissa Clark: Right.
Charlotte Ducos: You know, in Zach's neighborhood, nobody needs it.
Melissa Clark: That's actually a really good idea for that, that strip of Nolan Park that's along Peregrine because that gets watered with sprinklers, so it wouldn't be hard to do a community garden, right? And it's right there by the condos.
Charlotte Ducos: That's right. So that's what we would be looking for is high population areas that don't have their own ground to put it in.
Zac Huish: Is there an active request from residents that want to do those kinds of gardens?
Melissa Clark: We get one like probably once every 2 years where they come in and ask for us to do it and nothing's—
Cherie Curtis: Those that ask, are they actually going to be the wants to put forth.
Melissa Clark: Chris Deep even wanted to manage it.
Don Hamm: We have community garden boxes over at the senior center.
Melissa Clark: Oh, those count.
Don Hamm: And we can, we can put in more along that strip of the trail. And the seniors love to like garden and take out—
Melissa Clark: because that's a great idea.
Don Hamm: And residents actually garden and we'll help them occasionally and they'll take the vegetables.
Jessie Southworth: We need to know more that that's possible.
Zac Huish: So there's another one in Saratoga, it's a 65-plus community or 55-plus community that Pepperdine Homes did, and it has a giant one and it gets used.
Mare Burningham: I was going to say, I love that idea with the seniors because that could help qualify for mental health. But in the areas that are big enough that they have seniors, youth, or others, I think that would be a really good idea.
Zac Huish: They also don't have To your point, they don't have the option to garden because it's an HOA and they can't do any of that.
Charlotte Ducos: Yeah, so our apartment complexes and condos, that's where we need to— You know what, also open spaces there.
Melissa Clark: I'm just gonna— right now in our code for multifamily, they're required to do a clubhouse and a pool. And the pool is kind of arbitrary, but if there was a significant exchange Instead of the pool, and it was a really nice community garden, and it was managed by their HOA, whatever, that could be a substitute. There was a group that came to us and they asked to put cornhole there and a grill.
Charlotte Ducos: Yeah, it was ridiculous.
Melissa Clark: In exchange for a pool. It was the dumbest request we've ever gotten, but—
Charlotte Ducos: But it's okay, they made up for it by coming 5 times.
Jessie Southworth: person came for a—
Charlotte Ducos: but no, look, fitness center is the one.
Melissa Clark: Their fitness center was like one treadmill.
Jessie Southworth: And it was certain members of council I don't think would approve even a garden in exchange for a pool.
Melissa Clark: But I think if you guys—
Steve Mumford: Depends on if it was built right.
Melissa Clark: Right. I think if you guys dig in and you set the requirements and you come up with kind of a foolproof way to have community gardens, and this is the requirements that gets presented it to council, council adopts that as an alternate for the pool of requirements.
Charlotte Ducos: And I want to add, looking at this, I—
Mare Burningham: at community gardens for my own list, that there were a number of places, cities and towns, that had very successful community gardens that I was looking at. So you could draw a lot from what's work that's already been done.
Charlotte Ducos: The other option is to make the— make it the option of available, let the community know that that's something that they can put in if they've got land and the desire. And then it goes to places where they've applied and they want it. And then you know that they're going to—
Jessie Southworth: Are they all 100% community-driven, or is there someone that kind of goes in and—
Melissa Clark: Chris Diep even brought one because he wanted to manage it.
Jessie Southworth: He wanted to buy the land behind my house and do that kind of stuff there.
Melissa Clark: Well, he didn't even necessarily want to buy it, but he wanted us to be able to do community gardens there. So like, there's— there are some people that spearhead it. We had a mayor that was very pro-permaculture, where like you bury wood and stuff and you grow out of that. So that's where some of the community— when Penker was here, he did that. And we had Caleb Warnock come out and do a consultation, and he's a big gardening guy. We had a greenhouse programmed into Cory-Ride Park in one of the phases in the initial design, because I was on Parks and Rec when we did that. So like, it's possible, it just hasn't been spearheaded by a committee that could do something with it.
Charlotte Ducos: Does the Water Conservancy still do like community partnerships? Would they partner with us?
Melissa Clark: Yes, and you know what else? Most of the developers, I've talked to them about this, they would help pitch in the money to make some of these things happen. Um, yes, and it could be like— they used to have that garden down in Orem where people could walk through and see it. We could do something like that here.
Zac Huish: We also need to consider just the maintenance of drip lines. Like, you got to make it a big enough park. Maybe it's adjacent to Quarry Ride or whatever parks.
Mare Burningham: Somewhere where there's water.
Zac Huish: Yeah, there's water and you're You're gonna get a parks tech that's not gonna have to remember all of these disparate gardens throughout the city.
Mare Burningham: Maybe we should just form an official task group or something. Yeah, committee.
Jessie Southworth: Someone who wants to research this and come up with a plan, that sounds like a good idea. Is anyone interested in doing that and want to take that on as a side project?
Steve Mumford: I'd be happy to help.
Charlotte Ducos: Awesome.
Mare Burningham: I can work with you on it.
Melissa Clark: I would love to.
Jessie Southworth: Okay, and I'm available.
Melissa Clark: Just so you guys know, I've been asking for fruit trees in our parks for like 12 years, and Brad Hickman has said no to me for years.
Charlotte Ducos: When that fruit drops, if nobody's picking it, it makes a huge mess.
Mare Burningham: You know what else makes messes?
Melissa Clark: Scorpions.
Charlotte Ducos: Bulls.
Melissa Clark: Like, put it in a place where we don't care.
Steve Mumford: Okay, let's, uh, Circle back. Yes, get back to the mental health section to identify 3 there that we're already doing. Well, mental health is a gardening thing. Why is it on there?
Jessie Southworth: Yes, so we do have all of these things already. We have the, like, the naloxone access.
Charlotte Ducos: We already have naloxone. We already have the disposal service and the free gun locks at the library.
Mare Burningham: We do.
Cherie Curtis: Oh really?
Jessie Southworth: We need more Advertisement of that?
Charlotte Ducos: Yes. I had no idea until I read the—
Steve Mumford: I had to ask, I had to ask Soraya because I'm in the other building. Hey, do we have this? I feel like we have one. Yeah, she came out and she's like, yeah, there's one. So the medication drop box is right over here. Where are sheriffs and reporters down the hall?
Charlotte Ducos: I've got a bag sitting in my garage that's been there for years.
Steve Mumford: Her first question was, do you want me to post about that? I said, hold off until we talk about it at least here. And then, yeah, I think we want to post about it.
Melissa Clark: I think it'd be good to make a post calling it Bring Mine. Throw some of that in the comments and say, as it fits into your town schedule, throw some of that dog stuff in.
Charlotte Ducos: It's like a grocery bag full of dog poop.
Melissa Clark: We're at a community cleanup.
Don Hamm: We're also going to partner with the DEA. To have a prescription drop-off.
Melissa Clark: Can we have a gun buyback too?
Zac Huish: Yeah, people will stand there and buy them.
Melissa Clark: Zach and I will take care of it.
Don Hamm: So yeah, we'll have a prescription— we're working to get it squared away, but they can bring used prescriptions and drop off just at the dumpsters in the bin that they provide, and then it will be hauled away by the DEA and stuff like that. Nice.
Melissa Clark: So just to provide another—
Jessie Southworth: I feel like something that They're like very— there's a ton of advertisement about that kind of thing, and they have like a medicine drop day and all these things, and we should definitely—
Charlotte Ducos: Yes, there's also the host recurring community event that promotes social connection. We've already got your lunches for the elderly there, and then there was one where the suicide prevention walk works. Did you ever get a hold of Abby?
Jessie Southworth: She didn't respond.
Don Hamm: Okay.
Jessie Southworth: But I do think—
Zac Huish: This is the one at Cedar Valley?
Melissa Clark: Yeah.
Zac Huish: Yeah.
Jessie Southworth: I would love—
Charlotte Ducos: I really think that it will work fine to partner. I just— she probably is like, I don't know who you are or why you're contacting me, and she's probably also on Summer's break.
Jessie Southworth: Well, that's fair. I gave her both the names. But do you know about the suicide— it's a walk that Cedar Valley does every year is a walk to prevent suicide.
Charlotte Ducos: However, they— you can come in and put who you're walking for, and they have booths there from resources for mental health. So, it's a really great event, and I'm sure they would love to get it out in the community.
Steve Mumford: Yeah, it's at the high school.
Charlotte Ducos: Yeah, it's at the high school.
Jessie Southworth: But we do already have 3 things there, so we have— of that. And we are now officially a Believer City.
Charlotte Ducos: Yeah, so you actually have plenty of them there. Yes, that's true.
Melissa Clark: Or put it as one of your 3 expansions. The Believer Mile?
Jessie Southworth: What was it?
Melissa Clark: It was Motivational Mile, but what's it going to be called next year?
Don Hamm: Motivational Mile.
Melissa Clark: Okay.
Zac Huish: Yeah, that's a good one.
Don Hamm: We're also doing partnering with Craig Whiting to do the half marathon.
Charlotte Ducos: So whatever happened with the city that he was competing against? What did they have to do if he made it? No, no, no, the—
Melissa Clark: what's this?
Steve Mumford: He wasn't really competing against them. They were just calling him out from California or somewhere.
Charlotte Ducos: Well, he had to do something if he didn't get it. What did they have to do if he did?
Zac Huish: I don't know.
Charlotte Ducos: He had to go run his flag in their city if he didn't make it this year.
Jessie Southworth: But it seems like there was something that they had to do if he did get it.
Melissa Clark: Okay, so I have—
Steve Mumford: we just choose which ones, but we have— we do senior lunches and senior bingo and other activities. We have naloxone kits that we offer.
Charlotte Ducos: Gun locks.
Steve Mumford: Gun Locks, Narc-X Kiosk, which is the medication drop-off, the Believer City, Show Me a Sign organization, Motivational Mile.
Melissa Clark: Pick the coolest ones because they make a video about us and show it during ULCT. So for sure we should do Believer City because we want to show that off. Nobody else is. So pick the ones that like are totes bragging rights.
Soraya Farmer: Totes. Totes.
Jessie Southworth: And I think like senior—
Charlotte Ducos: the senior lunch, you could get footage of the senior luncheon.
Jessie Southworth: And then they could do a video of Smith Ranch Park.
Steve Mumford: Yeah, so they'll do— they'll interview the mayor probably, and then they'll interview certain other people as part of the video. Oh my gosh.
Charlotte Ducos: And then your additional 3 you needed are So we need—
Steve Mumford: let's see, we need a health plan.
Jessie Southworth: So the community health plan is a 3-year You guys may as well share it with the whole—
Don Hamm: Oh, I drew on you.
Soraya Farmer: You're totally fine.
Zac Huish: We're just working on something with the Jazz right now.
Steve Mumford: They're gonna do something on hopefully August 30th.
Zac Huish: Uh, they're gonna bring out some of their players and just do a free little clinic or something.
Soraya Farmer: That's fun.
Cherie Curtis: But I mean, you can You should totally pair that with a little youth belonging mental health thing at the same time. It takes 5, 10 minutes. Promote, you know, why that's important for them. That's so easy. They're already gathered and excited about some jazz guy there. Why not throw in somebody talking about mental health?
Mare Burningham: If you have your— my contact info, we'll create a card for you.
Steve Mumford: So what we have to do is a 3-year community— let's see, community health plan. And health plan looks at data to understand the health needs of your community and choosing additional health strategies to implement over a 3-year period. So it's— as a large community, we have to implement 3 additional strategies every 3 years, so just 3 total for the next 3 years.
Zac Huish: Let's add 1,000 miles of trail in our city in 3 years.
Melissa Clark: Remember how I told you it took me 9 years to get Smith Ranch to art?
Cherie Curtis: He's an artist at heart.
Zac Huish: I'm used to being loud and a mess, but Jay knows how to do stuff.
Charlotte Ducos: If we know we're gonna pair with the high school anyway, the destigmatize mental illness through community campaign or event, the community can do that campaign in conjunction with supporting the high school's event.
Jessie Southworth: I have something I would like to bring up about this stuff too that specifically goes with the mental health, but I would want to know if there is interest in this, but there's the Communities That Care Coalition and that we could join that.
Zac Huish: And this— oh, is this the an animal?
Melissa Clark: No, no, no. We used to have this, and I don't know why it stopped.
Don Hamm: It's because the lady, Karen, I believe was her name, she left, so she was no longer with them.
Charlotte Ducos: And so it kind of— I thought we already had one.
Don Hamm: I think the city is so—
Melissa Clark: yeah, I got so many cases of spatulas from them.
Jessie Southworth: But it was done through more like—
Melissa Clark: they always have like family eat at home.
Jessie Southworth: That way. Yeah, I have a contact With the person who's over it. And I think— and I was kind of— I lived in Pleasant Grove when they started it there too, um, so I was a little bit a part of that. Anyways, I just think that it would be— I think there's a huge gap in our city for resources for mental health, and we have a lot of issues. And I think that's something—
Charlotte Ducos: Yes, we do.
Jessie Southworth: It would be really cool to— Did you drop your favorite one?
Melissa Clark: So what is that? Is that bringing it to City Council and City Council gets— do we create like a work session for it just like we had the cat code people last night?
Mare Burningham: Or—
Melissa Clark: Well, that's a good one, Charlotte.
Charlotte Ducos: No, I was there.
Melissa Clark: Oh, okay. Anyway, is that what we need to do if it's something we want to consider doing?
Steve Mumford: Because like the City Council would have to You're talking about Communities That Care specifically, or you're talking about creating a new—
Melissa Clark: Communities That Care.
Steve Mumford: And you're right, we used to do that because Ben— other Ben Reeves that used to be on the city council was part of that.
Melissa Clark: Well, do you remember they would ask the city council to do like the Eat at Home with Your Family week, like family dinner night? And there was like the tacos and pizza, and they passed out spatulas to everyone. I mean, they used to be super into all of our events. Yes, and that's why I'm like, we need to get whoever's doing that again because that was good. But so I don't know if it needs to go to City Council because we already were that community. I don't know if it has a budget item.
Jessie Southworth: Like, you will have to hire someone though.
Don Hamm: We shared someone when it was there.
Melissa Clark: But didn't we share someone with Saratoga Springs?
Jessie Southworth: Yes.
Charlotte Ducos: Yes.
Soraya Farmer: Yeah.
Melissa Clark: And do they still have someone or no?
Don Hamm: I think Saratoga Springs.
Melissa Clark: We probably are cool enough to have our own.
Soraya Farmer: Yeah.
Charlotte Ducos: So, uh, I think I attended a couple of meetings for that.
Melissa Clark: And maybe it falls under the same thing that we have, like, you know, our RAD kids people and like that. Maybe it's because we budget, like, I think it's like $10,000 a year for hours for them. Maybe we do something like that for a part-timer communities that care. So is the recommendation from Community Services Board to City Council to consider budgeting for something like that? I'm just trying to figure out what the process is to make this happen.
Jessie Southworth: It would be— I would have to come up with a presentation and give it to you guys.
Melissa Clark: I don't even know if you'd need to do that. How do we figure out— how do we figure out—
Charlotte Ducos: right, but how do we figure out when that was and if something needs taken— like if we need to take action?
Steve Mumford: I feel like—
Melissa Clark: I think a presentation is fine.
Steve Mumford: I can— I will reach out to Owen at Saratoga Springs because they— he worked over that for them and find out what did they have to do as the city to be involved in that.
Melissa Clark: And because did we just contribute some money toward it? Or, I mean, it would be good to know how Eagle Mountain facilitated that before too.
Jessie Southworth: So Because as of now, like, to bring it here now, it would be just the coordinators, all of it the city would have to hire, and then the county provides most everything for it. They provide the classes and everything that's needed. Um, but sorry, that's just something I think that we could do over the next 3 years.
Charlotte Ducos: That's a pretty easy one.
Melissa Clark: It's a good one too. It'll have a huge return on investment. We'll see good things from it. It was good before.
Steve Mumford: Whether that's implementing or partnering with the communities that care organization.
Jessie Southworth: But I don't know, I mean, that's gonna— I would imagine that'll take 3 years to get set up, but just based on how things tend to work.
Melissa Clark: So, C's gonna check into it. Is Jesse gonna still plan on coming in and doing a little quick work session presentation on it? Because I think you have a It was a different perspective too because they had the suicide focus, and I don't know that Communities That Care did a ton of that with us. There was more about family members.
Jessie Southworth: It's all about prevention is what the Communities That Care is about, so you can choose from like, like there's like a few different things, and it's all about the risk factors and preventing addiction or abuse or suicide. And all things like that. So it just would depend on what we want to focus on.
Charlotte Ducos: We need 3 goals. So we could do Join the Communities That Care Coalition as one. Do a destigmatize mental illness through a community campaign or event and partner, like do a community-wide campaign leading up to the suicide prevention event. prevention walk at the school as a second one.
Jessie Southworth: Do we want to focus all of them on mental health?
Cherie Curtis: That's what I was going to ask. Does it say if it has to be one in each area, just 3 at any—
Steve Mumford: Let me look at the actual form.
Jessie Southworth: I'm pretty sure it's just any 3, but—
Cherie Curtis: And it has to be something new that we aren't already doing? Like, could we say, oh, we're going to do the Motivational Mile in connection wants to leave our city.
Charlotte Ducos: It has to be something new.
Jessie Southworth: Another thing, while I look at that, someone did reach out to us at the farmers market and brought up that they want to bring out a type of Special Olympics or bring— I don't remember exactly what she said.
Melissa Clark: We had a team because my girls were on it.
Steve Mumford: Oh really?
Melissa Clark: Brady Bears, yeah. And Chelsea Brown and her husband, I can't remember what her husband's name is, they were the coaches for it. I was just looking at— because they were bocce ball silver medal champions at state. So bocce ball is really easy for us to put in and do adaptive. That's an easy adaptive sport. So we don't have anything right now, do we? Lehigh has a huge Special Olympics team. Like, they do a ton there.
Steve Mumford: Jason's been very interested in implementing that.
Cherie Curtis: Let's do it.
Mare Burningham: That's a great idea.
Melissa Clark: Let's do that as our next one.
Steve Mumford: as well. So what is it?
Melissa Clark: Implement a Special Olympics adaptive sports. I would do slash adaptive sports because maybe we don't do the Olympic side of it, but we still have—
Mare Burningham: Just adaptive sports program is a great place to start with the aspiration for Special Olympics.
Melissa Clark: It is the coolest thing in the world. Yeah, and they have teams that are part Special Olympics people and part I don't want to say regular people, but, you know, like they're mixed teams, and that's really, really neat too.
Mare Burningham: Yeah.
Charlotte Ducos: Are you talking about Unified Sports?
Melissa Clark: It's— there's different heats in the bocce ball competition, and they had ones that were all people that were special athletes and then ones that weren't, and they had mixed teams.
Charlotte Ducos: Because there's Unified Sports that does that.
Melissa Clark: You pair regular students with their life Jason, you know the people who started Eagle Mountain Rec Sports? Their kids were a part of that Special Olympics team with my kids.
Steve Mumford: Oh, they were?
Melissa Clark: Yeah, so like maybe they would help with something.
Jessie Southworth: So I know we decided— we've talked about the Communities That Care, and then that— I don't know, is there a different one that we want to do rather than destigmatize, other than the community campaign for mental health? Is there something else we want to do that gardens as community gardens as the third option instead.
Charlotte Ducos: So basically one from each?
Melissa Clark: Yeah, if you guys think that Brad can't say no, don't tell him I said that.
Jessie Southworth: But that's another thing is do we want to say that we're going to do that before we even get the research and all that stuff done, or do we want something—
Charlotte Ducos: That's the only reason I didn't suggest that one is because we said we were going to look into it, which means that We don't want to commit to it yet.
Jessie Southworth: Yeah. So it can be a little—
Steve Mumford: we can do the other ones I mentioned, maybe as possibilities. Add wayfinding signage for trails that provide both time and distance for routes. Develop a new walking/biking trail or add to an existing one. That could be in the bike park.
Charlotte Ducos: I mean, we just got a grant for that.
Steve Mumford: So yeah, yeah, that trail over there.
Mare Burningham: Messaging campaigns for certain I think that you could do a lot with existing trails, even to have guides for where we have the trails classified for different categories of fitness or ability, where it makes it easy for a family that might have even like babies in strollers or kids in wheelchairs, or you know what I'm saying?
Melissa Clark: And advertising.
Mare Burningham: And advertising, yes. So that— and they're grouped together so it's easy for people to find activities that fit their family or their special circumstances.
Charlotte Ducos: We have a lot of that stuff, but I like— I don't know how to get to the trailhead to go up to the flats.
Don Hamm: Right.
Mare Burningham: You know, or, you know, people like to do that for a friend the other day.
Charlotte Ducos: Yeah, people like to hike Turtle Hill, but some people don't know what Turtle Hill is. So if we were to make a specific campaign for healthy living to let people know where are our trails, how do they find them, and then, you know, have the wayfinding signs there.
Jessie Southworth: That can all work together for that goal. Would that include— could we add like mile markers to the trails?
Mare Burningham: I think that's really helpful.
Melissa Clark: Yeah, good idea.
Cherie Curtis: Love it.
Steve Mumford: We just have to have starting Starting points for a trail and an ending point.
Melissa Clark: And then, yeah.
Steve Mumford: And so is the question— is the suggestion to do that on the off— like the dirt trails, or to do it on the paved trails as well?
Mare Burningham: I think, I think, personally, start with the most used ones.
Charlotte Ducos: And then we have that data.
Melissa Clark: Start with the most used and then spread from there.
Steve Mumford: Did I say 1,000 miles?
Zac Huish: Yes.
Cherie Curtis: Okay. Can we start? Can we start with Sage Valley Airport Road?
Zac Huish: Our average— I'll follow up with you on that one.
Charlotte Ducos: He's gonna change to 1,000 feet.
Melissa Clark: Can it be 5 o'clock?
Cherie Curtis: I almost got hit twice.
Melissa Clark: I would walk 5 o'clock.
Zac Huish: We're averaging 1,800 feet of linear path a year. We did 3,000 feet last year, 550 feet—
Jessie Southworth: Great.
Zac Huish: Or no, last year was 550 feet. Years ago it was 3,000 feet. So if I average that out, it's almost a mile.
Jessie Southworth: Okay.
Steve Mumford: There's new paved trails every year.
Zac Huish: New paved trail in 3 years.
Steve Mumford: Now figure out how long it takes me and you to pave a mile.
Melissa Clark: Dude, I bet you Mare could do it faster than you guys.
Steve Mumford: As long as somebody's helping us out.
Mare Burningham: One hand, you never know.
Steve Mumford: I don't have to drive the dump truck. All right, so do we have all the 3 that we want to Yes, I've got join the Communities That Care Coalition, which focuses on suicide prevention and other— implement adaptive sports programs. And then wayfinding signage slash physical activity campaign that implements signage for trails, with time and distance and a campaign to get people out.
Charlotte Ducos: I mean, we're— if we're going to do the work for the off-site trails, I mean, off-road trails plan, we ought to have a campaign letting people know they're there.
Mare Burningham: Yes.
Melissa Clark: Okay.
Jessie Southworth: I think that's awesome.
Zac Huish: Yeah, I was gonna say that a lot of the trails we have are on private property too.
Charlotte Ducos: Yeah, but if we mark the ones that aren't, yeah, and delineate These are ones that you can be out on, right?
Jessie Southworth: Yes.
Steve Mumford: My goal is to get all of those, at least up in the Hidden Valley area, shut down.
Mare Burningham: Legal. Yeah.
Steve Mumford: Legalize.
Zac Huish: Come on, Steve.
Steve Mumford: So then we can have results.
Melissa Clark: If he didn't have 4 jobs to do, maybe he could stay here.
Jessie Southworth: Okay, is there anything else that we need to discuss tonight with the communities that—
Melissa Clark: or sorry, the health Yeah, do you have everything you need to do that?
Steve Mumford: I think that is— let me just look real quick. The only other thing was the letter that we send, the letter of commitment to identify some key achievements. The ones I suggested, they had like just 3 bullets, you can do more.
Jessie Southworth: Wasn't that bad.
Steve Mumford: I suggested the off-street trails master plan, Sports sponsorships to make programs more accessible to families. And the Believer City and community food pantry. Is there anything else that was big that you think—
Melissa Clark: We were saying that Mascot Miracles, our sick horse rodeo, was a new city event this year that we kind of brought under our wing. And I think that's a cool adaptive activity. That's a neat one.
Steve Mumford: And that's one that now the Pony Express Events does?
Melissa Clark: Yes, well, it's done it, but now that—
Don Hamm: yeah, but it's like, now that it's officially Pony Express Days related again and the city's helping.
Melissa Clark: I think that's a cool— plus that's something that no one else does. There's no one else in the state that does that. So if they make a video about us, remember, it's all about goals.
Steve Mumford: And they do a stick horse rodeo?
Melissa Clark: It's Pony Express events, and Eagle Mountain City does a stick horse rodeo for Mascot Miracles. Mare would have more details for you, but that's—
Steve Mumford: I'm sure.
Soraya Farmer: Yeah.
Jessie Southworth: Okay, is that all we need then for now? And then we could just keep working on these things. Jay, you said you're gonna look into the gardens soon?
Soraya Farmer: Yep.
Jessie Southworth: Okay, awesome. And I will work on the community center stuff. Okay, well, awesome. Then I think we can move on to the next topic, which is the American 250 and Eagle Mountain 30. We don't need a motion for any of that, do we? Are we just— that can all just be—
Charlotte Ducos: do we need to? I think they're just doing action items.
Melissa Clark: We're not spending any money on it.
Mare Burningham: No, I think they're just action items.
Jessie Southworth: Yeah, these are just discussions, right?
Soraya Farmer: Yeah.
Melissa Clark: I think the ones that you really have to vote on are ones that you're— there's going to be a financial impact, right?
Charlotte Ducos: I think we can just state that it was the will of the body to do this.
Steve Mumford: Move forward with those. Okay.
Don Hamm: All right.
Jessie Southworth: So now we have the America 250, UNO 30, plans and events.
Steve Mumford: Okay, I had a little thing, but it deleted apparently. So here's, here's from my memory, the events coming up for America 250, Eagle Mountain 30. In July, we have the laser show and summer bash, which we have these cool stickers for.
Zac Huish: Thank you.
Steve Mumford: And then, and that's This Saturday, Saturday night. And then in August, my proposal is to do Walk 30, which is similar to America 250— or Walk 250 as part of America 250. But much easier. So either— we talked about this a little bit before, but Either we make it just like that one and say you walk, run, bike, hike, whatever, 30 miles, and then you turn that in and you get the sticker for it or something.
Charlotte Ducos: You could call it Move 30 instead of Walk 30.
Steve Mumford: Move 30?
Melissa Clark: Does that mean we could do Prancercise? Oh my gosh, yes! Have you seen the video for that? Yes, I love it.
Charlotte Ducos: Except for you have to video it.
Steve Mumford: Can I veto any of this?
Melissa Clark: Just make a motion and say Steve has to do it. Yeah, do it.
Jessie Southworth: Get the video of Steve.
Steve Mumford: So for my Walk 30, um, so either we do 30 miles during the month of August, or you just make it more accessible for everyone and more fun and you just say 30 any time. Let's do 30 anything, so involving recreation or walking or hiking or biking. So, you know, you walk with 30 ladies, get together and they go walking, or you and your friends are walking 30 dogs all across the city.
Melissa Clark: 30 cowboys.
Charlotte Ducos: I want to see a video of that.
Melissa Clark: I think we should ask them to submit videos because I think it would be pretty cool.
Mare Burningham: Yes, I think I would love that.
Charlotte Ducos: I think that that would be really cool. It would be really fun to request submissions for how they did it.
Melissa Clark: And then we can give out special wristbands and sweatbands to the people who complete it.
Charlotte Ducos: Steve goes home very tired from this meeting. We're like hurting cats.
Steve Mumford: I mean—
Melissa Clark: When I'm in charge of the meeting, I'm super good and stay on track.
Steve Mumford: When I'm not— We do need like a prize for it, but if it's not very hard to do, then the prize shouldn't be amazing.
Charlotte Ducos: I think we should do it for the most original Walk 30.
Cherie Curtis: Then how would you judge that though?
Charlotte Ducos: It's subjective.
Jessie Southworth: Very.
Cherie Curtis: But I'm saying, who would judge that?
Charlotte Ducos: The board. We watch all the videos.
Steve Mumford: Maybe.
Charlotte Ducos: The one we laugh hardest at.
Mare Burningham: We can have a laugh meter.
Steve Mumford: I think, um, you could do a drawing. So we can have a, we can have a sticker, the special one for Anyone who completes the program and they can come pick it up here or something like that.
Melissa Clark: You could ask Anytime Fitness if they would be willing to donate a 1-year membership and advertise that along with the Eagle Mountain 30 because that's some publicity for them, but it's a huge donation that they give and that would be a cool thing to—
Charlotte Ducos: If you don't want to have to choose, you could do it as a drawing. Submit your—
Melissa Clark: submit a way of donating.
Charlotte Ducos: They all go into a drawing for a 1-year membership.
Melissa Clark: I like that idea. That would be huge advertising.
Steve Mumford: A drawing? Everyone who completes it, their name goes into a drawing?
Jessie Southworth: Oh yeah.
Charlotte Ducos: You just submit, you know, a picture or whatever we say of what they did and it goes into a drawing.
Melissa Clark: Yeah.
Steve Mumford: So I can talk to communications and And we could have either a simple form they fill out, like a JotForm kind of thing on the website. It's like, hey, I completed this. And there's a link to that in the social media posts or the QR code or something. And then they can— maybe they can submit a video or submit a picture or something with that.
Charlotte Ducos: Okay.
Steve Mumford: I was trying to think of how can we get people to post this? And have everyone be able to see.
Jessie Southworth: You should post it with a tag, a hashtag. Yeah, but if they're a private account, it doesn't matter. No one's gonna see it.
Cherie Curtis: They could just reply within the post.
Charlotte Ducos: Oh yeah, have them, have them attach it to the social media post.
Steve Mumford: It's our post. Yeah, it goes out.
Charlotte Ducos: Say put it in the comments.
Cherie Curtis: And then you get more views for every time someone—
Mare Burningham: Yeah, it bumps it.
Charlotte Ducos: And if people see that other people are doing it, they're more likely to do it. Because everybody's doing it.
Melissa Clark: And tag your friends.
Charlotte Ducos: Melissa for sure will do it because it'll be everybody doing it.
Melissa Clark: And then I'll get mocked on Facebook. And I'll cry. And then I'll go get a sugar soda.
Steve Mumford: I know the more things that go on social media, the It doesn't matter, it's good.
Melissa Clark: There are people that are homebound that this is like their one chance to connect with other people in the community. So like, for them alone, I'm willing to do something fun. Plus you could have like the mayor do 30 roping or like something really—
Charlotte Ducos: You could wear your eagle costume.
Melissa Clark: Oh my gosh, I'll totally do it in my eagle costume. You didn't have to even ask me.
Charlotte Ducos: Hey, I wonder if we could find enough people that have— 30 people that have those dinosaur costumes.
Melissa Clark: Or 30 eagle costumes, because I know there's like 3 people.
Steve Mumford: Now you have to actually do something like walking, running, moving.
Charlotte Ducos: All right, dinosaurs and go walking. Animal costumes, walk dinosaurs.
Mare Burningham: 2.5-mile or 5-mile walk in Cedar Pass Ranch.
Zac Huish: Okay, we picked up our kids from the school bus.
Mare Burningham: Well, I mean, you're away from traffic.
Melissa Clark: I mean, this isn't saying it has to be there, but we can close off Crossroads Boulevard and do something there too.
Steve Mumford: For anyone willing to participate, we may throw together something like that. Let's get it in the video and post it.
Melissa Clark: I think videos are fun. We did that during 2020, and we have videos of all the council members and like different staff members like during 2020, during COVID It was cool. Like, it was fun. Doing certain things. Mayor Gus Morlan and his His wife did exercising, and I read a book, a children's book.
Steve Mumford: Activities and things for connection. Okay, so are you supportive of the Walk 30?
Mare Burningham: Yes, yes.
Steve Mumford: In August?
Mare Burningham: Wholeheartedly.
Steve Mumford: August is a good time because it's still summer, still nice outside for the most part, except for flooding and rain. How much else is happening at the city in August as far as events?
Melissa Clark: I think that's great.
Charlotte Ducos: That's great. Okay.
Melissa Clark: There's a little room over there, Don. If you want attention, just raise your hand.
Steve Mumford: Let's see. September, there's a bunch in September. So there's Charlotte's— the high school's Constitution pop-up museum.
Charlotte Ducos: There's a pop-up as well as the boot camp.
Steve Mumford: The Constitution boot camp. And then there is—
Charlotte Ducos: I think that's the end.
Melissa Clark: There's the Day of Service.
Steve Mumford: The 9/11 Day of Service.
Melissa Clark: Shop Fest and Prep Fest. Shop Fest, Prep Fest, and the dumpsters. No, it matters.
Charlotte Ducos: What's the last one that you said?
Cherie Curtis: Are you still doing the backpacks?
Steve Mumford: So that was my other thing in September that we talked about. Um, and so here's the backpack.
Jessie Southworth: Nice!
Melissa Clark: Reply with yours.
Jessie Southworth: That's cool.
Steve Mumford: They look like that. They're like a hiking backpack, sort of, you know.
Charlotte Ducos: You should do a video showing the backpack and what's in it.
Steve Mumford: Yes.
Melissa Clark: We'll get some B-roll after we pass the taxi.
Steve Mumford: It's just groundwork.
Zac Huish: I don't know.
Melissa Clark: Everyone's gonna be like, oh, Citi's wasting money on a backpack.
Steve Mumford: Okay, here's what I have so far on the inside.
Melissa Clark: Get ready, you guys.
Steve Mumford: Okay, so we've got We've got this water bottle. It's got the logo. We were like a little disappointed in the water bottle, right, Dawn? Because it's kind of light and flimsy.
Melissa Clark: Don't worry, we'll get it right for the 60th birthday. No, I'm just kidding.
Steve Mumford: We've got a hat.
Melissa Clark: That one's cool. That one's not like that weird V hat.
Steve Mumford: 30th anniversary hat. There's these, uh, Stormtrooper hat.
Charlotte Ducos: Oh yeah, America 250.
Steve Mumford: The America 250 fanny pack. There's a t-shirt. Eagle Mountain sunglasses. There's several— we have several colors we can put in there. And then we've got—
Melissa Clark: We should get the library to put a book in there. See, we should get the library to put a book in there and then put something in there that's like a sticker on it with the library.
Steve Mumford: It's what?
Melissa Clark: Just a book, any book. Like, let them pick it. Atomic Habits.
Steve Mumford: Maybe something like that.
Soraya Farmer: Yeah, that's a good book.
Melissa Clark: It's an excellent book.
Soraya Farmer: What?
Melissa Clark: Atomic Habits. And put a library, uh, yeah, and say come and get your library card at the Eaglemont Library. Like, let's use it as a way to shout out to them.
Steve Mumford: There's a pin, a lapel pin, and a keychain. That's cool. It's the logo. And there's a sticker because we had a bunch of extra, so we've got a bunch— 30 stickers.
Melissa Clark: That, that's one of the items.
Steve Mumford: Oh my God, are you kidding me? And we've got a pickleball Paddle that's American.
Jessie Southworth: I mean, that's gonna sell everyone one.
Steve Mumford: Isn't that cool?
Melissa Clark: Oh, forget the book. That's good.
Steve Mumford: And then we can put— I just threw these in, but we can do like, uh, pickleballs, a couple pickleballs or something.
Soraya Farmer: I love it.
Melissa Clark: If we order teeny tiny little UV stickers, we get the brand pickleballs. Like Ninja Turtles. They're tiny.
Steve Mumford: I like the book idea. We could do something like that with a light.
Melissa Clark: It's lame, just forget it. Nobody likes salad soup.
Steve Mumford: There's 30 backpacks.
Mare Burningham: We could put in little black light pen lights that they can use for the scorpion.
Melissa Clark: Yeah, and then you could do it on a cardstock, cut slits in it, slide that in there, and then put a QR code to the Wildlife Alliance.
Jessie Southworth: There you go.
Steve Mumford: You really could. Don't get too crazy on me, but we, we have time. We've got a month or so to—
Jessie Southworth: the Chamber wants to— I'll put something in.
Melissa Clark: I don't think the little title is gonna be big enough.
Zac Huish: What?
Melissa Clark: We can put something in. We have really cool fidget spinners.
Steve Mumford: So something from the Chamber?
Melissa Clark: The Wildlife Alliance should do something.
Mare Burningham: I'll talk to them and see.
Melissa Clark: I think the Arts Alliance should do something. Like all of the partnering organizations.
Charlotte Ducos: The Arts Alliance would put your book in there for you.
Melissa Clark: Yeah, we know someone.
Soraya Farmer: I know a girl.
Steve Mumford: Anything else that's missing that you think, like, people will want?
Charlotte Ducos: I think it's really great.
Cherie Curtis: And just the fun of a scavenger hunt.
Melissa Clark: Do we still have printed maps that we do every year?
Steve Mumford: I don't think so.
Melissa Clark: I thought they were up at customer service.
Jessie Southworth: Could we do—
Mare Burningham: could we—
Don Hamm: just asking—
Mare Burningham: could we do like with her binoculars?
Steve Mumford: Depends how much it costs, yeah. There's a small, like a mini binoculars?
Melissa Clark: Declaration of Independence reading.
Mare Burningham: Well, I'm thinking for the wildlife. How many are you doing? 30?
Steve Mumford: That's a good idea though, little mini binoculars or something. Look for wildlife.
Melissa Clark: Yeah, you can find like a cute little dollar bird watching book too.
Mare Burningham: Like, there— I have actually found some little, uh, guides that are not very expensive that we could probably furnish.
Melissa Clark: I'll check this in my board. Because you're partnering with organizations, then it doesn't become like super commercial. It's just, yeah, here's some entities that help support the activities in Eagle Mountain, because I wouldn't do every one, but just little things.
Cherie Curtis: So we need a Community Service Board sticker in there is what you're saying?
Don Hamm: We do.
Steve Mumford: Then we were going to create a sticker for the treasure hunt as well. And everyone who arrives— only one person gets the backpack, unfortunately, at each site— but everyone who arrives gets a shirt and a sticker if they arrive within a certain amount of time. So then the question really is, and we've talked about it a little A little bit, but I don't know that we've fully settled. I think the options are— we talked about maybe doing it in September. You could do— here are my options, okay? Don't react yet until all the options come out.
Mare Burningham: You can do—
Steve Mumford: Sounds like me talking to my wife. Right? Don't even roll your eyes or make a face yet. You can do One backpack a day for 30 days. So one treasure hunt every day.
Zac Huish: I like that.
Steve Mumford: Someone on the board's going to be in charge of that. I was going to say, that's just a lot of waiting for people to ask. Anyway, I'll tell you all the options, and then there's obviously pros and cons to each of these. But, um, we can do every Wednesday, either every 2 Tuesday or every Wednesday night, because there's 5 of those in September. You could do 6 treasure hunts on each of those days. You can do it all on one day, all 30 on the same day.
Charlotte Ducos: Jeez.
Steve Mumford: Or you could do— you'd space it out and do 10 on 3 different days, right? You do a whole weekend, you do a Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and do 10 each day on those days. Something like that. But of course, pros and cons are things like we want— we don't want the excitement to die off.
Melissa Clark: Oh, it's not gonna die off. People are gonna be so excited. People do that one for like the little treasure chest.
Mare Burningham: Yeah.
Melissa Clark: And they post about it all over the state of Utah. Like, it's a big deal.
Steve Mumford: But that's a lot of money.
Melissa Clark: Listen, their prizes were dolls. But they're an open door.
Steve Mumford: They can also come to all the events and get the exact same prizes. Easy, pal.
Jessie Southworth: Not easy.
Steve Mumford: We don't want the excitement to die off, and then we also don't want tons of work for everyone who's involved in it.
Zac Huish: Are you wanting to do like a different treasure hunt or just run the same program if you did it over 3 weekends?
Steve Mumford: So the— I think the idea, and I'd have to get with communications and go through it in detail, but I have a whole map that shows possible locations. I can send that to you if you guys want to see it, because it won't pull up.
Mare Burningham: But I had—
Steve Mumford: I tried to get locations that are, that are public if possible. There are some that aren't, and we have to talk to the landowner. But scattered throughout the city. So at a park, so Cordy Wright Park, Smith Ranch Park, Brandon Park, Valley View Park, kind of spread out. Some places that are hard to get to, but like hiking or biking, so Prayer Flag Hill, maybe Turtle Hill, or I think Firefly at the water tank at the top of their, their trail. Maybe the Firefly Park as well with the skate park and stuff. Maybe we do them at the high school and the middle schools. And you'll have 30 different treasure hunts. So I— yeah, okay, which is hard. And then the other part is that I have— I was trying to think through is we'd probably have them at the same time. every day when we do these, right? In the evening because the kids are home from school.
Melissa Clark: Um, I think just throw it into AI and say we need 30 destinations in Eagle Mountain and we need 4 clues for each one. It'll give it to you in like 12 seconds.
Steve Mumford: So we need clues and maybe we have a picture that's taken that shows— it's like a view from there or something that would give a clue. And then the other—
Cherie Curtis: I think I think most of all you need would be a picture.
Jessie Southworth: Yeah, that's all I need. I'd be able to figure it out.
Steve Mumford: Just one picture of either of the place or—
Melissa Clark: Yeah, because people do those little Christmas ornament pickups and stuff.
Zac Huish: Yeah, exactly.
Don Hamm: We used to do carnival tickets. That's how we did it. We did giveaways and we would just go place it random and just take a picture of it, like a close-up, so you can't tell where it's at unless you bring in a RV. I will say, based off my experience from that, please do not forget a drop location in White Hills. You will be hung.
Steve Mumford: We've got fireflies.
Mare Burningham: I would go—
Melissa Clark: that would make it worse if you did a firefly into their parks.
Don Hamm: Go Old White Hills. Like, they are very excluded. They're like annexed from the city, and so they'll freaking love it.
Charlotte Ducos: There's a park there.
Melissa Clark: Where do you live?
Steve Mumford: It's a good idea.
Melissa Clark: Oh, I was looking at that, and she's right.
Steve Mumford: And so then there's a— there would be a certain time, and then anyone who arrives within a certain number of minutes at that time gets to—
Don Hamm: Why don't you just do like the first 10 people that show up?
Steve Mumford: Or yeah, okay, the first 10.
Melissa Clark: I would just say like don't make people sit there forever. That's going to be too much work.
Charlotte Ducos: Like The Amazing Race.
Melissa Clark: Yeah. Sorry.
Steve Mumford: So do you send the hint and then the first 10 people that arrive after you send the hint?
Melissa Clark: Yeah. And then the next day say we're going to give our hint at 5 PM on this day, then everybody comes to the city's channel and watches for it.
Charlotte Ducos: Maybe we need a little flag that says, you know, this treasure's been claimed, and you just leave it there so that if they find it, they know that they made it there, but that the prizes have been given away.
Melissa Clark: Well, if they find out—
Charlotte Ducos: oh, I guess that's true.
Soraya Farmer: You can post that it was found.
Jessie Southworth: You could do both.
Melissa Clark: But we should make them pose for a picture and And like say, look, they found it. It's always 2 or 3 days.
Steve Mumford: So we have to have someone there at each site, I think.
Jessie Southworth: Of course.
Steve Mumford: And then you either have the bag there as, you know, you take a picture of the bag in the spot. And the problem, the only problem that I can see is if we're at a park and there are kids and people playing at the park and we come in with our bag.
Charlotte Ducos: Well, we have to be a little bit more selective.
Melissa Clark: Gotta be secretive and selective, but A little more out of the way.
Cherie Curtis: Well, it just depends on the time of day for some parks too, right?
Soraya Farmer: Right.
Steve Mumford: Okay.
Cherie Curtis: So what are you doing?
Steve Mumford: Anyway.
Cherie Curtis: Every day on the weekends?
Steve Mumford: Oh yeah, what do you want to do?
Cherie Curtis: Every day would be hard for your staff.
Jessie Southworth: Very hard.
Melissa Clark: What if it was—
Charlotte Ducos: well.
Zac Huish: What time does the sun go down in August?
Melissa Clark: September.
Cherie Curtis: September.
Zac Huish: Or September.
Melissa Clark: 6:38.
Cherie Curtis: For real?
Melissa Clark: Yeah, I looked it up earlier.
Soraya Farmer: Okay. She knows.
Melissa Clark: I'm like Rain Man over here.
Mare Burningham: I know, that's what I'm thinking.
Charlotte Ducos: She has the sunset table memory.
Zac Huish: I mean, like Saturday mornings to avoid kids running around.
Cherie Curtis: Yeah, what if you did like a Wednesday evening, Saturday morning, so you hit one during the weekday and one on the weekend?
Steve Mumford: That sounds good to me.
Mare Burningham: Me too.
Charlotte Ducos: And then you just do multiple on the same night and post all the pictures.
Melissa Clark: It's 7:12.
Charlotte Ducos: You're doing multiple at the same time, so you just post the pictures of all of them and they just pick one?
Zac Huish: Might be a sale on this time.
Melissa Clark: Whatever's closest to them. Oh my gosh.
Steve Mumford: Because then you can get a lot of people going in at the same time.
Zac Huish: They'll figure it out. I think it's gonna fail in the Senate.
Mare Burningham: Oh my gosh.
Zac Huish: Yeah, there's like a 30% chance of it passing, so.
Melissa Clark: Oh wow.
Zac Huish: Uh, I don't know, whenever the Senate gets around to doing anything.
Melissa Clark: Oh man.
Steve Mumford: So Wednesday evening Saturday mornings.
Jessie Southworth: Yes.
Steve Mumford: And what did you just say?
Cherie Curtis: Definitely.
Melissa Clark: Should it be Saturday afternoons though because of the farmers market and stuff like that? Or is it fine? Does it not matter?
Steve Mumford: We can do it in one of the farmers markets.
Melissa Clark: Is there a ton of soccer games on Saturday mornings? Like when do most of our soccer teams play soccer?
Steve Mumford: Tips on what time? Most start on the 15th of August.
Melissa Clark: Time of day?
Zac Huish: In the morning.
Mare Burningham: So maybe it should be Saturday morning.
Melissa Clark: Because I think that's gonna expand It won't be in the afternoon. Decent-sized pocket.
Cherie Curtis: Well, then they do the Wednesday evenings.
Jessie Southworth: Those are like early.
Melissa Clark: That's true. But good catch.
Steve Mumford: So we're talking maybe afternoon?
Mare Burningham: Yeah.
Melissa Clark: Well, it all comes down to when we can staff it, Steve. I think the board's saying we love the idea. But we get that there's logistics of staffing.
Steve Mumford: I'll figure out the logistics. And then when we get this going, any of you of course are invited to participate and help if you want.
Melissa Clark: Oh my gosh, you couldn't keep me away.
Steve Mumford: You have to be standing by the stage.
Cherie Curtis: So you're saying there's not an asterisk of our family members can't participate?
Melissa Clark: You don't get to collect the bag, you have to pack the bag.
Steve Mumford: No, I anticipate, yeah, you can't—
Melissa Clark: I'll stand right there on the little square that says you've been eliminated and tell the people who come late.
Don Hamm: You should make sure that they do post that city staff and their families are not eligible.
Charlotte Ducos: Right.
Melissa Clark: Yeah, that's, that's it. Including elected officials.
Soraya Farmer: Yes. Are we city staff?
Steve Mumford: No, isn't that the worst?
Melissa Clark: No, you're volunteers.
Steve Mumford: But if you guys know where the locations are, I know I've been to our economic development golf tournament and man, they give away amazing prizes because we get sponsors.
Melissa Clark: It's because they don't raise money for any good cause. They just take thousands of dollars in. For nothing to go buy prizes. Okay, um, should be something we discuss.
Soraya Farmer: Yeah. Okay.
Steve Mumford: Oh, okay. And then the only other thing was in October we have the Halloween Town, which will have a fun ghost sticker for that. And, um, and I feel like there was one other thing in October.
Don Hamm: There's the adaptive Halloween, adaptive trick-or-treat, a movie in the park, and that's when our half marathon will be, is October.
Melissa Clark: October 3rd is the half marathon.
Jessie Southworth: Yeah, October 3rd.
Melissa Clark: Yeah, October 3rd.
Steve Mumford: Yeah, awesome. Okay, and then—
Melissa Clark: So what you're saying is it's not gonna slow down?
Steve Mumford: It's not slowing down. November Turkey Trot and, uh, something else.
Melissa Clark: The Veterans Breakfast, which will play a role in that.
Steve Mumford: There's something else too.
Melissa Clark: Village for the veterans breakfast.
Mare Burningham: Yeah, please share.
Melissa Clark: Well, it's a city event now instead of—
Jessie Southworth: so, okay, go on.
Melissa Clark: It's just one of the community service things.
Jessie Southworth: So what do you need to help with?
Don Hamm: Um, I don't know because this is the first time hearing that it's actually a city event now.
Melissa Clark: So we took it away last year. Remember how ridiculous it was that every single time they do it, they're like, oh, we don't have Yeah, juice. Okay, we'll run to Macy's and buy a bunch of juice.
Don Hamm: So am I— is my staff taking the whole event over?
Melissa Clark: I think you guys should. That's what I told Rudy was gonna happen. I was like, let's actually get what happened, so let's verify.
Don Hamm: Yeah, I'm like, I just need—
Melissa Clark: well, we're supposed to sit down with you, whatever. We're supposed to sit down with you to talk about all the events because there's one— ones in their MOU that they propose that they want to help do something for. So like, let's talk about that offline or I'm happy to do whatever.
Jessie Southworth: But even for everything that's coming up, like Friday, Saturday, whatever day?
Don Hamm: Um, Saturday is busy. It's gonna be very busy, especially with the fireworks come. The fireworks show, we had 20,000 people. I'm anticipating the same attendance. So anyone who wants to come and help, we have like a watermelon eating contest. We need help with like judging and getting that going. and all the age groups. The Arts Alliance is handing out glow sticks for us. We always need help keeping kids back on the stage, like when Trash Panda's up and stuff like that. So if you guys just want to come, and if you're looking for something to do rather than just enjoy the event, come over to my booth. We'll put you to work. We'll give you fun tasks. It's fun. It's a party. It's a great time. This is one of my favorite events, so if you haven't already, come.
Mare Burningham: Awesome.
Don Hamm: experienced it.
Steve Mumford: She told me, she told me the other day it was her favorite.
Melissa Clark: Yeah, I—
Don Hamm: well, I have a hard time saying Silent Santa is not my actual favorite event, so— but this event is super fun. We can always use help. Um, there's that one. And then after that we have— I don't know, Saturday, back to school nights. Um, That event, we have all of the elementary schools coming to set up a booth with their principals and crossing guards. We did it last year.
Melissa Clark: We did one in 2019 too, but it was on August 1st. Oh no, but we did a back-to-school safety fair with Be Ready Eagle Mountain. Yeah, so, but it's, it's the first time that it's coming events.
Charlotte Ducos: What's the name of the August 1st one?
Jessie Southworth: Back to School Night.
Don Hamm: So we have a clothing swap. We're collecting clothing donations and back-to-school items. Um, people come and take what they need, drop off what they want to share. Um, that's a good event. I think that would be a good event for the board to set up a booth at and just give information to the community and collect information. If you're looking for a place to do that, that would be a good family phone night to do that type of stuff.
Melissa Clark: Well, then for sure, that's August 1st.
Don Hamm: August 1st.
Melissa Clark: Then we need to hustle on a banner. Yeah, like, can we get that information to comms? Remember how she asked to design a banner?
Don Hamm: We—
Melissa Clark: if it's— if we want to do a booth by August 1st, we first— we should try to have it ready.
Charlotte Ducos: If we're sitting there as a community services board, we should be able to identify ourselves.
Soraya Farmer: That—
Charlotte Ducos: otherwise it doesn't—
Don Hamm: even like soft So when you guys go to Shop Fest— or not Shop Fest, that too, but yeah, the farmers market.
Melissa Clark: Yes.
Don Hamm: So, um, yeah, I don't know, there's just lots of things. Let me put together all like our calendar, calendar of events for the rest of the year. I'll send you an email with potential items that we need help with, what you guys can do at the events. I'll send it to you and you can disperse it.
Jessie Southworth: That would be awesome. Thank you. Is there anything else on the events or anything?
Steve Mumford: Nope, thank you very much.
Jessie Southworth: Okay, um, we wanted to really keep this to 2 hours tonight. Um, did you guys all look over the email about the wrap tax stuff? Has anyone had any, like, great ideas about anything?
Zac Huish: So just one of them, uh, just As I'm sitting here researching and listening, the community garden thing could be brought under the RAP tax. That's— it can be funded by that. Not for— apparently not for like continuing—
Soraya Farmer: The building of it could.
Zac Huish: Yeah, but the one-time purchase, like building the actual garden could be part of it.
Melissa Clark: And putting in the sprinkler line.
Steve Mumford: Yeah, yeah. Running the water.
Zac Huish: thing.
Don Hamm: Yeah.
Jessie Southworth: Now, would that come— if we were to do that under the RAP tax, would that be something that came like as— it would have to— assuming we get a criteria down with an application, would we have to submit that as an application and then review it? Like, how would that be? That would be a city—
Charlotte Ducos: that would be a city-run application.
Jessie Southworth: Yeah, how would that—
Steve Mumford: We need either a separate group to submit it or have the city submit it as a project.
Charlotte Ducos: Part of it, submit it as a part.
Steve Mumford: I'm not sure. I gotta talk with Ben about how we want to do applications from the city.
Melissa Clark: I was thinking about how Lehigh has it. Yeah, because Lehigh says 70% of their RAP funds go toward council and city designated projects and 30% are grant things. But I would think that the Community Services Board could help do. And we all— the City Council ultimately would have to decide the 30/70 split or whatever that is.
Jessie Southworth: But the thing about that—
Charlotte Ducos: I would actually rather not have a percentage.
Jessie Southworth: Well, yeah, because—
Don Hamm: well, we—
Jessie Southworth: Charlotte and I were talking about this, but like, um, say someone comes in wanting grant funding for a frisbee golf course, disc golf course, that is technically like— I feel like that can't— I don't feel like 30% for community grants. I don't know, that seems like it'd be more like a parks thing that it would have to be in.
Melissa Clark: Well, sorry, Lehigh does cultural arts, right, community type things, gets the 30%. And if it's a park, that's why there's so much in the 70% side. Because I think the thing is, is if it's a park, the city has to approve it. If it's a play or an orchestra concert, then it doesn't really matter. It's one and done.
Jessie Southworth: Which totally makes sense. So the ways that I was looking at how different cities do this, there's— you can split it into, yeah, city, like from city-run things and community things, and then also from like Parks and Rec.
Charlotte Ducos: And there's also 501 requests.
Jessie Southworth: Yeah, so I mean I don't know, soon we're going to have to start nailing down, we've got to be able to vet however we're going to do this really well to make sure it's solid. So we really need to—
Melissa Clark: Well, and I think the example with the very eager disc golf guy is you will— I just know from the match grant, it can go really, really ugly really, really quickly unless we're very communicative and help people understand how to apply for it. a lot of things that can go wrong. Yeah, so, but yes, we need to get that stuff figured out.
Jessie Southworth: So I don't know if anyone has any additional thoughts.
Charlotte Ducos: I liked, I liked having a stipulation that, that, that they need to have a presence in the city. Some have that, some, some don't. Some have it like really, really spelled out, and others it's just just kind of a general statement. So I like specifying that it has to go to a project that specifically is done in Eagle Mountain, not just somebody who functions in the area.
Melissa Clark: That is a big deal, yeah.
Charlotte Ducos: So I think that was a good stipulation that I saw. I prefer, personally, my personal opinion, I prefer not to attach percentages to it so that we have the freedom to move between Between projects. Between the projects. Because what if there's like a really killer citywide project that's 80% instead of 70%, right? Or what if there's a really killer community-based organization that what they're doing is really going to have an impact across the city and it's more than 30%? Like, I just think that—
Melissa Clark: Are you talking about the buckets of money, 30%? Are you saying we'd only fund 30% of it.
Zac Huish: She's saying don't limit the—
Charlotte Ducos: I don't want to limit, here's how much we're going to pledge to the city versus here's how much we're going to pledge to community. I think let's have an application process and a criteria for judging and judge based on the criteria rather than being bound.
Zac Huish: Ultimately, it's all going to flow to the council anyway.
Charlotte Ducos: That's right.
Mare Burningham: That's right.
Zac Huish: I think if we just come up with the biggest, best That's right.
Charlotte Ducos: That's how I feel.
Mare Burningham: And—
Don Hamm: yeah, hang on.
Jessie Southworth: I lost my train of thought for a second.
Melissa Clark: Well, one thing that I was gonna say with applications, you should ask how many people this project will serve.
Jessie Southworth: Yes.
Melissa Clark: You should ask how many volunteers are involved in their organization. You should ask for their very specific plan of how they're gonna acknowledge wrap funds in their thing.
Jessie Southworth: Yes, and we can have them— like, some cities do it where we have to, like, we put in a certain amount of money and they have to match it, um, and things like that. So we just need to really nail down what—
Charlotte Ducos: And I just wonder if some of that can be dependent on the type of organization.
Melissa Clark: For example, if we have a 501, maybe we have it do matching funds because You know, I think the hard thing with that is some of them don't have funds to match, especially most of the nonprofits in our community don't, don't have staff. Okay, they're just really—
Charlotte Ducos: And I don't think we should do matching with our community ones. Like, for sure, it's a neighborhood wanting to do something in their park. I, I don't think that we should require matching funds for that. So I don't know, do we ask the city to do matching funds?
Melissa Clark: Because the city funding— these funds are city funds. So just so we're clear, it's already— wrap funds is already matched.
Jessie Southworth: So we need to determine at least, like, I don't know, was anyone able to go through and pick out things they didn't like from the examples that were given or things they— problems they had? And when, Steve, should we have this solidified? By next year?
Steve Mumford: We were talking about definitely by January. Yeah, because then early next year we want to start.
Jessie Southworth: And then we— because not only do we have to have the criteria, but we've got to have like a way for them to come in and apply. When they apply for these funds, it's going to be coming in like basically presenting to us, probably.
Charlotte Ducos: Yeah, because they— yeah, they, they usually do a presentation.
Zac Huish: They've simplified the process a little bit though now. Like when I applied for council, there was a form where any— all of you filled that out for you to be on the invite. I feel like just a simple one-page or two-page application. I think, well, give them some space to expand.
Steve Mumford: They would attach some information to it, or sure.
Charlotte Ducos: And it's, yeah, they would need cost information.
Melissa Clark: As someone who's written grants and also reviewed grants and approved them, I think it's good to put enough into your application that helps to standardize it.
Charlotte Ducos: Yes.
Melissa Clark: Because some organizations really know how to play this game, and others are just really great organizations that haven't ever dipped their toe in grant water, and I don't want any of these funds to not be possible for those inexperienced groups. So if you make your application enough to be able to get that information that you need out of all of them in the same way, then it will be easier for And that's why I don't want to have like percentages.
Charlotte Ducos: I don't want to count somebody out that it could really help them out, but because we've already hit our quota.
Zac Huish: I don't disagree with that, by the way.
Melissa Clark: But are you, are you really gonna give— so if we, the whole city gets WRAP tax funds, and we're gonna say all of these people applied but 80% goes to this one project, is that what you're No, I would. I know, I just want flexibility to all the other—
Charlotte Ducos: what I'm, what I'm saying is I want flexibility.
Melissa Clark: And I think you can have the best. It's just what the best price does. Yeah, like I—
Charlotte Ducos: But there are others that don't. So she sent out like 5 different cities. And some have actually— Lehigh, I think, was the only one that had a percentage. And so I know, I should just— I'm not saying that I want 80% to go to one I just want to be able to look at the projects and judge them on their merits rather than on a quota.
Jessie Southworth: And we don't— I mean, we'll have to look at the cost, but I don't know how—
Zac Huish: It could be like this NOA— just hear me out, hear me out, all the options before you roll your eyes. But the group that wants to build this rec center, you know, what if they came and asked for— they're going to put in X amount of dollars and $200,000, you know what I mean? There could be big projects like that that I think would be worth considering, and maybe that's our one shot for the year to do something big versus spreading it out on a lot of little things.
Jessie Southworth: Yes, and that's why we've got to make sure this— the criteria, the rubric is really—
Charlotte Ducos: Well, and the hard thing with a project like that is some groups we would not need to ask this to, but if we were going to do something with NOAA, I would want to know what's it going to cost citizens to come and take part at your facility.
Melissa Clark: Well, you should ask everyone that. So if an orchestra comes and asks for you to fund—
Charlotte Ducos: How much are you charging?
Melissa Clark: Their space that they're going to use for their concert, you should ask what the tickets are going to cost.
Jessie Southworth: And I think it'd be similar, like when they come and give us a presentation, we'll then have the option—
Zac Huish: They're going to have to provide you guys budget information.
Melissa Clark: No, the other thing too is we don't have to spend— and this is something council's gonna have to decide— but we don't have to spend the whole chunk of money that comes in a year in that year. There's been talk of like at City Hall we're gonna want some of those funds to be reserved so we can do arts projects and different things at the new like City Hall complex. So like we as a council may say we're gonna put 20% into savings because we want this to go toward a really big thing that the city has plans for.
Charlotte Ducos: Are there— there are some state requirements for certain kinds of funds about how much you can hold in reserve. Are there any limits on that for wrap tax?
Zac Huish: I think it has to be— I don't think we can bank it because—
Melissa Clark: We absolutely can because I asked Ben about it.
Zac Huish: Oh, we can?
Melissa Clark: Yeah, we absolutely can bank it. We just have to use it— like, we have our window of time.
Zac Huish: Because initially my idea was, why don't we just build a big foundation that's kicking off dividends every year?
Melissa Clark: Yeah, we can't turn it into like an endowment, but we can say we're gonna build City Hall in 5 years, so every year between now and City Hall, we're gonna set aside 10% of our RAP tax because we know that we're gonna want to do some really cool big things there. Like, that's something that we can do. We just can't create an endowment. Because he's thinking big, like let's fund this in perpetuity.
Zac Huish: Yeah, it just kicks out dividends every year. Yeah.
Cherie Curtis: Well, will there need to be a deadline then of, all right, applications open January 1st, we need all applications by January 31st, and we are going to spend however much money from the RAP tax, and we need to decide in the month of, you know, February what we're proposing, and then it's done. We don't have any more applications the rest of the year because we just spent all the money.
Jessie Southworth: Well, and I wonder if we could keep applications open longer, but that this is the deadline for it and this is when we're gonna review it. We review them once a year.
Melissa Clark: Well, and there's nothing saying that you can only review them once a year. You could start with one grant round in your first year, and you could get to the point where you We do grant rounds every quarter. Like, there's— and we're gonna have a crap ton of WRAP funds eventually because we get sales tax on all energy that's used as well. So like, as soon as the data centers are like completely up and running, it's gonna be gangbusters for the WRAP funds. So, and back to Charlotte's thing about not denying a big project, you should have a tier request of like, this is how much you're asking, this is how much you're asking, And this is something and above, and when someone comes in and asks for the something and above, there's a higher bar, you know, like there's different criteria, like all that stuff. So like, I would just say set your, your system up in tiers because that's the way I've seen it.
Charlotte Ducos: Because I wouldn't want to do a regional project that uses that many, that much of the funds, right? It would need to be a full—
Melissa Clark: And it has to be like a razzle-dazzle. It has to be something that you guys completely believe in, and then the council completely believe in. But I think there's kind of that dream big tier where people can come in and ask for something, because maybe there is a business out there that would come in and run and do some of those things, but they need the city support in this way as the seed for it or something.
Charlotte Ducos: So can RAP tax dollars— RAP tax cannot be used as a— as the continuing costs of things, right? So like No maintenance.
Melissa Clark: Okay.
Steve Mumford: Were you saying that priority to projects and groups within the city?
Melissa Clark: Absolutely. That's what Charlotte said. Because there— so if you look at the list of people who applied to Lehigh, there was a theater group that's like in Midvale, but somebody in Lehigh lives there, and they wanted Lehigh to donate that because like 2 people in Lehigh go all the way to Midville, and I was like, hard no on that. Like, to me, it has to be in the Cedar Valley or very specifically—
Steve Mumford: We already have for CDBG, we have groups coming in from other places. That's creepy.
Melissa Clark: Yeah, and ones that don't even have their—
Don Hamm: So weird.
Charlotte Ducos: Why, why would you go to somebody else's community asking for that?
Melissa Clark: Because that's how they survive. Those suckers bring in millions of dollars every year.
Charlotte Ducos: So is that why, is that why the, the cat and dog rescue thing is, is wanting to come in No, there's—
Melissa Clark: every year in City Council, we probably get 40 emails from people that live in our community that don't want us to go to a no-kill shelter. So it just is— it's a passion project for them. So I think it's more to do with that than anything else.
Charlotte Ducos: I was just wondering if you meant that we were going to get an application for funds.
Melissa Clark: It doesn't apply. There's nothing about that that has anything to fall under that.
Mare Burningham: Sorry.
Jessie Southworth: do, I think this has given a lot of thoughts to think about. I think we can—
Charlotte Ducos: What if we put this as the first item on the next meeting's agenda?
Jessie Southworth: Yeah, so I was— I think this is gonna be something we need to talk about every agenda, so I think that we just keep thinking about it and like share things throughout the month. Like there's nothing that says we can't, like, at least discuss some ideas, right?
Charlotte Ducos: Because I looked at this, I looked at the summaries, but I didn't pull up their actual applications because we're gonna need to do that too. So maybe we just dig a little bit deeper this next time.
Melissa Clark: And what if you guys broke into every month, there was a chunk of the application process that you drilled down into? So maybe one of them is the forms that you fill out, the other one is what the reporting process would be, like Yes. And what the tiers are and stuff like that, like criteria. If you guys figured out 6 months worth of stuff, I think you could have a killer application process and it won't feel so like all over the place when we're talking about it.
Jessie Southworth: So what's the first thing we should focus on then?
Charlotte Ducos: Let's start, let's start with the application.
Melissa Clark: Well, actually, I think you should do the application. Like, I think you guys should say what are the projects that we want to consider, like what types of projects and find little buckets that you, you're looking at them to kind of help people. You should do the application at the end after you've worked out all the kinks of the process and what you're asking for. Um, oh my gosh, they're weird, but they're so much more comfortable than the old ones.
Jessie Southworth: So, um, I think if we—
Zac Huish: Can you start with like an AI one?
Cherie Curtis: I did.
Soraya Farmer: She did.
Charlotte Ducos: Yeah, yeah, we have.
Jessie Southworth: I don't know if I did. I sent it to you too. I sent you all of it.
Steve Mumford: So really focusing on the criteria and the, and the types of projects that we—
Jessie Southworth: Well, I'm like, because we probably need a separate— we do need a separate— I feel like it needs to be separate for Parks and Rec versus—
Charlotte Ducos: We need a city versus community.
Jessie Southworth: City versus community, Parks and Rec versus— I don't know.
Melissa Clark: I don't know if you guys are gonna do an application application process for city stuff though.
Charlotte Ducos: There has to be some— we have to have something for recommendation that we still have to have that same information.
Melissa Clark: Okay, but it would be different. We wouldn't have to provide—
Charlotte Ducos: that's why I'm saying it needs to be a separate process or a separate application.
Don Hamm: One application, but it's conditional based.
Charlotte Ducos: Okay, what was that?
Don Hamm: Sorry.
Jessie Southworth: We're just gonna have like a condition-based application.
Mare Burningham: Yeah.
Jessie Southworth: But then we need, like, is it gonna be— you can't weigh an arts project or an arts grant the same as you would a recreation.
Melissa Clark: Okay, so you're gonna want to set up a rubric, and some of the things will be the same between recreation or parks and arts. Yeah, like how many people is it serving, how many volunteers is involved, that kind of thing. But then you'd have a scoring set so that the scoring set— yeah, everything that gets over like 80% will have them come and present, you know, something like that.
Jessie Southworth: That's another thing, because if we score it, if it like comes in and we score them individually ourselves, because we're each gonna have to score them individually, if it's not even worth our time—
Melissa Clark: Yeah, when we did the match grant, each of us scored them separately. We came to a meeting, reviewed all of them, went through what the scores were, and at the end of that night we knew who we were gonna have come present to us.
Jessie Southworth: Okay, so yeah, why don't we over the next— for the next meeting we can go with what we think would be the easiest to start with.
Charlotte Ducos: I feel like it's chicken and egg. I know, I know you said we don't want to start with the application, but like We'd have— we'll have to come back to it either way. Like, whatever we start with, we're gonna have to come back to.
Jessie Southworth: But we don't know what questions we need to ask on the application until we have the criteria.
Melissa Clark: Well, maybe start with rec because that feels the most comfortable for some of you guys, and then after you figure that out, then take what the criteria is going to be for art. Because we have a public arts code that we should make the application comply with that. So maybe rec's the one where you have a little bit more latitude to kind of figure out how you want it to be. And after you've hammered that out, then we just apply that to the arts code.
Jessie Southworth: So what I would say then is that through the stuff that I sent you guys, there's like— there are rubrics in there. Go through those rubrics. And we should decide, like, at least on the Parks and Rec one, if we like, like, how, what we think needs to be added or taken away or changed. And then we can get that through. We don't have to, like, assign points to anything yet, but we can kind of start with that.
Soraya Farmer: Okay.
Jessie Southworth: And just what to look for in those projects. And if we think more things need to be added, you can do more research or look into other cities. I think there's links to all those cities on what I sent. So that would be a good place to start. And then we can't— that's a good idea. We can just nail down at least Parks and Rec and try that. And I mean, that may take more than one meeting, but that's something we can start with.
Melissa Clark: And Liz is like very well-versed with the arts because that's her wheelhouse. So like when she's back, like maybe she'll be able to chime in with more stuff for you guys.
Charlotte Ducos: And the parks one, are we, are we lumping, um, communities that have, uh, like neighborhoods that have a piece of city property in their backyard that they want to do something with, are they lumped into the same category as the city that wants to do something with their parks?
Melissa Clark: No, they can't. I think that the city has to have the autonomy to say, here's some projects we want to work on and have you guys review them. I don't think that they should be judged against the community stuff because there's such different criteria, right? Like, we look at it, we're like, we've got to put up trail markers because we have specific things that we're doing either way as a city. So I think that focus on what you're going to ask the community to do, figure out the basics of information that you need from the City Council. Because even if you guys— well, I just think they're different animals.
Jessie Southworth: So start with community.
Charlotte Ducos: The community-based. That's what I was trying to get at, is are we trying to figure out what the rubric is for a city project, or are we trying to figure out the rubric for a community project?
Jessie Southworth: Why do you think it will be different? Because I think the city— I assume the city will come to us with, yeah, like, we need these things. And I don't know that we'll be in a— I mean, will we be able to say no to those things? I don't—
Charlotte Ducos: We can put something in a higher priority, but they're going to make the decision. Yeah.
Melissa Clark: Well, and the thing is, is if this— if you guys don't want to fund it with WRAP, the city can always fund it with the rest of the budget. So—
Steve Mumford: But you will be— yes, you will be making a decision. Yeah, you're going to recommend to the council.
Charlotte Ducos: Anything that gets paid for by WRAP funds, the city doesn't have to cover. So either way, the money gets spent.
Melissa Clark: That's exactly what I was trying to say without getting to it.
Steve Mumford: So hopefully it will be some projects just won't meet the criteria in the rubric and you'll recommend denial.
Soraya Farmer: Right.
Steve Mumford: And others, you just have to prioritize and try to figure out.
Jessie Southworth: Now, will every application application still go before council too? Like, will they see— at least get a—
Steve Mumford: I think so.
Soraya Farmer: Yeah.
Cherie Curtis: Okay.
Charlotte Ducos: So we need a— even if we already did that, we need a report. We need a form for our recommendation as well, one that says we recommend— we reviewed this, it doesn't meet this criteria, therefore we didn't— like, we need to be able to explain to them why we denied it if we did.
Melissa Clark: And you need a process for telling the organization why they were denied and encourage them to apply again. Here are some ways that you could improve it, because that's where the match grant went way wrong.
Cherie Curtis: Well, I think this is smart at the bottom of how it doesn't say denial.
Zac Huish: He's very good.
Jessie Southworth: Yeah, defer or revise.
Cherie Curtis: I like that.
Jessie Southworth: Yeah, defer or revise. Then there's no real denial. Because it's like it's a strong match, it's good, Partial, deferred, revised, do not recommend. Yeah, I think this is a good, at least a good place to start.
Charlotte Ducos: Which city had that one?
Cherie Curtis: This is just the—
Jessie Southworth: this was based off of the—
Cherie Curtis: this was rubric example number 1.
Jessie Southworth: Yeah, and that's just not really a city, based on different things that worked in other cities and what would be best for what AI thinks would be best for our city. So yeah, I think that's great. So next time we'll come, we'll have it on the agenda, and we will discuss scoring Parks and Rec. Did anyone have anything that they needed to bring up or any concerns? Any comments? Questions?
Charlotte Ducos: Are we going to go back to the farmers market again? Do we need to set a date?
Jessie Southworth: Well, or question, are we going to go to the back-to-school night too? What all do we have to— I mean, we've got the bingo card. We can always gather information about, like, What people think, I don't know.
Zac Huish: You have pretty good data on your— that website you built.
Jessie Southworth: The app?
Zac Huish: Yeah.
Jessie Southworth: I mean, yeah, stuff we've gone over, but I haven't gotten new stuff.
Charlotte Ducos: I mean, we could do it from a— we could go from a viewpoint of safe routes to school, like where are the issues in your community, in your neighborhood that make walking to school difficult.
Zac Huish: We need speed tables.
Steve Mumford: I need some speed bumps. I'm going to smile until later.
Jessie Southworth: Did you— were you able, Steve, to get the feedback that was gathered from the— I want to say the open space?
Steve Mumford: Oh, yeah, we talked— I actually talked about that today with some staff this morning. I want to gather that feedback from the Parks, Trails, and Open Space Master Plan. They did a survey and they did some— they did an event. They were at one of the events at the park. Shopfest.
Melissa Clark: And they got a bazillion people.
Jessie Southworth: And I told them that the parks were labeled wrong, but that's fine.
Steve Mumford: I'll gather that and share that with the— I'll send it out to the group.
Jessie Southworth: Okay.
Steve Mumford: Because I think that will help as well, because we've talked about, should we do a survey? Should we— and we talked about that this morning too, is we'll do a, uh, our annual citizen survey, citizen satisfaction survey. But, um, as far as the parks one, Parks and Rec projects, I think this data will help a lot. So take a look at the data when I send it out, and then we can decide, okay, do we, do we need to gather more, right, or is this sufficient and we know what the community wants in general?
Charlotte Ducos: So my question is, if we go to the August 1st as opposed to the farmers market, what is our purpose there? At the farmers market, we're handing out the bingo cards and handing out bags and spreading awareness of our group and of the activities that we're doing. If we go to the August 1st What is—
Melissa Clark: what are—
Charlotte Ducos: what's our booth for? I'm not saying we shouldn't go, I'm just saying what is the purpose of the booth? What are we doing there?
Melissa Clark: Is it a different audience?
Soraya Farmer: Is that—
Jessie Southworth: It's, it's a different audience.
Don Hamm: You have a lot of, I would say, focused around, um, like you had mentioned, how kids are getting to and from school. Like, for example, over here there's kids on that live in whatever, Pioneer Edition or whatever that neighborhood's called over there, their safe route to school is actually along the side of Eagle Mountain Boulevard where there's no trail system. The city can't connect the trail because it's not owned by the city. So projects like that would be good for you guys to identify and then see how—
Charlotte Ducos: But we can't fix it either if that's the issue, right?
Don Hamm: No, but we can— I think that if we had a stronger presence we can help with the safe route and reroute the safe routes.
Charlotte Ducos: So, so would it be one where we want to use our QR code to our app and let them report issues?
Melissa Clark: Yeah, yeah.
Charlotte Ducos: Do we still have that, that A-frame?
Jessie Southworth: No, let's lose this A-frame.
Don Hamm: Um, I have A-frames if you guys have—
Charlotte Ducos: do we still have the poster?
Jessie Southworth: Yeah, you're welcome to What size does it need to be? The material inside of it?
Don Hamm: I will email you that.
Steve Mumford: What's the, what's the attendance at this event?
Don Hamm: Last year we had 2,600. So 2,600.
Melissa Clark: That's probably more than the farmers market. Do we know what we're pulling in at the farmers market? If we've looked at it, we should have that.
Charlotte Ducos: So August 1st is a Saturday. Is it in the afternoon? Is that what it is?
Don Hamm: From This is Marie's event, so I'm not exactly sure. I think it's 3 to 6 PM. It's in the evening. We do— you can also set up a booth on Saturday. I know that's fairly like it's coming up quick and you wouldn't have like any, you know, anything, but that's a huge event. There's a lot of—
Charlotte Ducos: I'm unfortunately moving my son that day, so back to school. city event.
Melissa Clark: You know what though, Charlotte, too, there are other people on the board, so you can move your son. I don't feel like you have to do every one.
Charlotte Ducos: Well, this Saturday, yeah, this Saturday. But the August 1st one, I could, I could make it to that one.
Melissa Clark: Cool.
Steve Mumford: Charlotte's our salesman that goes out and gets people to come.
Melissa Clark: She really knows how to work a crowd.
Don Hamm: Middle schools as well.
Mare Burningham: Okay, perfect.
Don Hamm: A school like Cedar Valley will have a whole administration thing.
Mare Burningham: You're not a front person.
Charlotte Ducos: You know, we could hand out our bingo cards, that would work out just fine too, but then we just have the app. We wouldn't need the bags for that day. Do we have any more bags?
Don Hamm: I have 2 cases at my office too.
Melissa Clark: We should bring some of them. If you don't use all of them, we should bring the rest to Shopfest and pass them out at Shopfest.
Don Hamm: I can save the 2 cases I have.
Charlotte Ducos: Question, is it too much of a conflict of interest and not a good idea to put Community Services Board next to my Student Council at Shopfest?
Melissa Clark: Nope, that's the whole point. It's a nonprofit role.
Charlotte Ducos: Would that be a problem for me to be bouncing back and forth?
Melissa Clark: No, I don't think so. You're not exchanging any money, it's just info booths. That's the whole reason why we have that nonprofit role.
Charlotte Ducos: We can make a shirt that says Student Council on one side and Student Services on the other.
Melissa Clark: We're gonna make you change like Superman. We'll set up a little phone booth.
Charlotte Ducos: In the morning I can just be with my backpack. 6 to 8.
Jessie Southworth: Okay, so really evening. I was way off. So, okay, so we are meeting at Cory-Wren. If possible, if you can't go, it's fine, but if possible, We'll go to back-to-school night to gather information and try to— the angle can be safe routes to school. Is everyone on board with that? Or at least okay with that?
Mare Burningham: Yeah.
Jessie Southworth: I can make more—
Charlotte Ducos: Because that is a city requirement, right? City works with the school board to ensure safe routes to school. Is that the way that works?
Melissa Clark: It's technically the school's legal responsibility. But the cities, they always dump it on us. We have to figure it out.
Zac Huish: They just drop schools wherever they want.
Jessie Southworth: Yep.
Mare Burningham: Yeah.
Jessie Southworth: When you shot that?
Melissa Clark: September 12th.
Jessie Southworth: All right. Was there anything else anyone had to bring up? See if anything else we needed to call?
Steve Mumford: No, I think next— oh, just a note that if we didn't mention it earlier, that we did meet Councilmember Clark was there, Charlotte was there, Jessie was there to talk about volunteer, volunteer program and policies. And we also had— Don was there, right? At our volunteer meeting.
Soraya Farmer: Yeah.
Steve Mumford: And communications. So our interns, Ethan and Addie, our management interns, are working on Drafting something, and then we'll report back to the board at some point in the near future.
Jessie Southworth: And then we should— the rules of order procedure to allow for remote participation, if we could— I guess we can talk about that at the next meeting, but so then we can offer if we're in a bind again, we We can have a remote meeting.
Melissa Clark: That'll be up next.
Steve Mumford: We have a good setup here now that allows Zoom or Teams or something else.
Charlotte Ducos: As long as we can get it to work.
Steve Mumford: It was just that cable not working, I think, or my computer, but that system works.
Jessie Southworth: All right. Well, if there is nothing else, I will entertain a motion.
Charlotte Ducos: I move that we adjourn.
Zac Huish: Second.
Jessie Southworth: All right, Charlotte moved it and both Jane and Cherie seconded it.
Cherie Curtis: All in favor?
Jessie Southworth: Aye.
Charlotte Ducos: Aye.
Jessie Southworth: And the motion is— or sorry, the meeting is adjourned at 8:28 PM. What did I do?
Melissa Clark: I was just gonna say state the time. You got it. You were so great. All on your own.